Newsboy Cabinet ends early on ebay

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Posted By: Seth B.

Who bought this? Great card... I loved the circular cameo portrait of Van Haltren.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220196941402&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

I have a guess, but I won't use it... Needless to say, we were all watching these... Be well Brian

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Posted By: Seth B.

Hey there Brian,
Yeah, I figured it wouldn't slip past anyone, I just wanted to see a sale price.

I guess as far as the buyer of this gorgeous 19th century piece goes, we can at least rule out Leon, right?

Best,
Seth

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Posted By: Fred C

Oh well, live by the sword, die by the sword... Win some, lose a lot more... I hope the seller got a good price on the card... To the SOB that got this piece.... NICE JOB, enjoy it!

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Seth,
I bet you dinner at the National it was an East Coaster...smiley.. and good for him... Be well Brian


PS I wish everyone well....

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Posted By: Shawn

Anybody know who swiped these yet? I figured they would show up here on the pickup thread Since everybody was watching these they must be valued more than I was thinking... Anybody have a guestimate?

Shawn

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

I have it from a reliable source that the person that "won" the items is someone we know, but wouldn't expect. I would like to know too.... But I wouldn't ask anyone to break there word. Be well Brian

PS Great pick up...

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Posted By: Scott L

Hell, I don't even collect cabinets and I'm curious as to who got these? Are you guys fairly confident that they'll show up here at some point?


Edited to add: That is a really cool looking piece.


Scott

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Posted By: Bob

The way the last couple of guys who got sellers to end an auction early were blasted here after they admitted it, I don't think the guy who "won" these is going to surface publicly. Just my opinion....

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Posted By: Dave F

Guys-

I picked these up. I guess if people feel a need to blast me for it, so be it. I am sort of expecting that from this, but I don't feel I need to go into some sort of bunker over this. I'm not going to go into all the specifics, but there was bidding after the bidding ended...and I did raise my offer dramatically, and I would assume a few from the board may have been involved in that (not that I saw anything wrong with that either).

I suppose a good portion of the folks from this board have asked someone to end an auction. I guess my side of it is I've been on the other end as well, where your left wondering after having something on your watchlist what happened after it just dissapears.

I don't know what I am doing with both just yet, obviously with just having scans of the fronts it is a bit of a gamble, I never did ask for back scans. I may keep both, may keep one, may trade them for something else of interest down the line...i'm not in any big hurry.

To those that did send "blind" congrats I appreicate it.



Dave

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Posted By: leon

Congrats and thanks for owning up to it. The way ebay is this is expected and I personally don't have any ill feelings about someone that does it. I have done it too. I never used to but then we discussed it a few years ago and I found I was one of the few who didn't ask to shut them down. Now I don't see anything wrong with asking. I hate that sellers do it, and I don't, but ebay sucks and this is one of the things that sucks about it. Unfortunately I think you got it fair and square in the ebay wild west....take care

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Posted By: Seth B.

Dave, as the starter of this thread, all I have to say is, great pick up! I'm glad it's a board member, just make sure to share some scans with us when it arrives...

-Seth

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Dave,
Congrats on the pickup.... I guess my intel was correct.

Be well Brian

PS I wasn't one of the ones bidding after...

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Posted By: Joe_G.

I was hoping it was Bruce Babcock but then realized he already had both subjects. He's getting close to completing the set (baseball content), it would be great if he could score one or two on eBay.

My approach the last couple years when I want a tough item on eBay is to ask the seller not to end early. Make my interest very clear and ask that if they do end early that they please give me a fair shot at it. The approach has worked well and has probably saved me money as the hammer price is usually below what I'd have to offer the seller to end early.

Best Regards,
Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: Shawn

Sweet!!!! Nice pick-up... Excited to see better scans and the backs... Nice job Dave.

Shawn

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Posted By: Jeff W.

Dave

Congrats on the pick-up! As one who just started collecting 19th century rarities, those two Newsboys look outstanding.

Jeff W.

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Posted By: Dave F

Thanks everyone. The biggest thing now will be seeing what shape the backs are in. I'm a little scared that with the fairly nice fronts it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to think these could have been pulled from an old album and the backs are in bad shape...I hope not, but you never know.

I know Bruce B is probably the big time expert on these...does anyone know at what rate these are found with the ad backs? How commonly found? Any price adjustment for that?


Dave

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Posted By: barrysloate

Dave- almost all Newsboys are blank backed.

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Posted By: Dave F

Thats what I figured Barry. But I thought I remember seeing one on JC's website at one point that did have an ad. Must be rare as all get out.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Dave- I've seen or handled at least a dozen Newsboys, and I can't recall ever seeing an ad back.

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Posted By: Alan Elefson

Hi-
Dave, great pickup! Below is a link to an extremely informative website on Newsboys. I believe most of the adbacks are actresses, but I could be wrong.
http://www.newsboys.co.uk/

Link courtesy of 1880Nonsports on the Nonsports Forum

Alan Elefson

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

The article with the link above is a very good one. I was aware of the ad backs but have never seen one in person. Parke Wilson is very tough. Perhaps fewer were saved because he wasn't well known and is not pictured in uniform. Nice pickups!

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Posted By: Bob

Dave- Congrats, glad to see that one of the good guys picked them up. Also glad the comments about your acquistion are certainly nicer than some of the rancid ramblings I've seen in the past. You are lucky you didn't have anyone from this board email the seller and threaten to have him bounced from ebay unless he terminated the sale. There are a couple of jerks here who get their kicks that way, luckily just a few...
tbob

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Posted By: Shawn

Dave, since I guess I can't ask what you paid...still curious as to what everyones takes are as to value on these cabinets?

Shawn

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

and I have it labeled 'Van Haltren' back........I also had 3 with advertising on the FRONT........in black script at the top of the cabinet. I bought them off ebay and sold them to a collector in Hawaii.......They had 'Baum and Bernstein, Clothiers' on the front. Had Van Haltren and 2 more. Will post pictures when I can get ahold of 'em.

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Posted By: Dave F

Shawn-

I don't really have any clear take on value. I myself at least found very few recorded sales and most the ones I did find are HOF sales that wouldn't apply. I did find one sale for the Wilson in a 2005 auction...but something 3 years ago not sure how you'd equate a price fluctuation to today. I guess its possible the value could be up slightly or down slightly. It was lot #62 in the auction and there is a picture of the card still available if you click on the lot.

http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/AuctionTotalsDetail.asp?aucperiod_id=15


Dave

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Posted By: Dave F

Tom-

Would be great to see if you can find the images.


Thanks
Dave

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Posted By: 1880nonsports

was the hawaii guy a hotelier?

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

doesn't seem to be as active now as then........

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Back of a Newsboy............
I have the image titled 'Van Haltren Back', so I ass-u-me that it was Van Haltren........

Note the 'Baum & Bernstein' taglines on the top FRONT of the Newsboys. Backs were blank if I remember correctly. Scans don't really do the cabinets justice. They were REALLY beautiful cabinets. Bought all three from an ebay user after buying one at auction on ebay.

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Posted By: Dave F

Thanks for posting these Tom. Unfortunately mine did not have the ad back...picked them up this morning.


Dave

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Posted By: Dave F

Seth and Shawn-

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Posted By: Fred C

Dave,

You're right, too bad they don't have the ad back. They're pathetic... wanna sell 'em? Nice PU amigo. I'm sure you're already beginning to enjoy them!