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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Jeff S.
As many of you have probably noticed, Mastro has an ad on the back cover of the current Old Cardboard touting a PSA 5 T206 Wagner to be auctioned Aug. 1st. To my knowledge, this is the finest example to be publicly offered in years besides the Gretsky PSA 8. With that recent BVG 1 catching $317K+, any thoughts on whether this could break $1mill? It's a diamond cut, and noted as such with the (MC), but definitely a beaut. Nice to see a strong mid-grade for a change. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Tony Andrea
No doubt, that card will break the $1 million dollar barrier once the juice is factored in. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimB
I would be shocked if it did not break a million. My guess would be in the 1.3-1.5 range. But who knows with a card like this. It is the best to be offered in a long time. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Brian
Whoever buys it will surely be influential I couldn't resist. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: John
I'll take the under I'll say 675k tops....unless Mastro has discovered the fuel surcharge?? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Matt
Here is a listing of the other featured vintage card lots: |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: paulstratton
Anyone have a pic? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Tim
I bet this card goes for $1.6-$1.8 w/ BP. The number of buyers for a card like this are few obviously, but with nothing close to this card being listed recently I see it selling strong. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: MikeU
Without seeing a scan, I say it will close under $1M ($925K). Leon - This hammer price would be a pretty cool board contest? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: peter ullman
I will guess 1.15 million with juice. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Jeff W.
I am blown away that they are offering a near set 39/40 of N321's. Thats pretty incredible and I didn't think that a near set even existed! |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JP
Does anyone know if the Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back is the one with "J H" written in pen on the top of the back? Images anywhere? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Paul
What if some new influential collectors get involved? No telling what the price will be. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: pas
appears some influential folks are getting out, as well as in |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
I would think Don Louchios would be a near certain and strong bidder. Likely the Dreiers are strong bidders. Perhaps Ireland and Spence as well as other "influential buyers". |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Dave F
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Dave, |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan
I'm voting for Gary Cypress, if he doesn't own one yet. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: paulstratton
...or maybe the owner downgraded and plans on pocketing a cool million after all is said and done. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Dave F
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Is it appropriate to be naming names on a public chatboard? Maybe some or all of these collectors would prefer privacy. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Dave F
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Barry, |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Don't most people list on the registry with a pseudonym and not their real name? It may not matter, but these collectors might not read the board, and they may find out second hand that they are being discussed. It's a privacy and security issue, too. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Most list their sets under their name or if the do not their real name ias widely known. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- fair enough, and that is one way to look at it. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Dave F
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: brock
Any one know if their is a back door to view the auction like last time. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
I know--what am I thinking of? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan
Barry, |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: T206Collector
...back door yet, which isn't surprising given that their last auction just ended last week. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: barrysloate
Gary Cypres does have a museum, and his collection is well known. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Jason L
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan
Remember, there may not be a back door, because this card is part of their 2nd annual live auction at the ESPN zone Aug 1st in downtown Chicago (which I can't afford the $100 fee ) |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: pas
How many PSA 5 Wagners are there? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: barrysloate
There are probably less than five Wagners known that would grade Excellent (I know I could look it up but I'm too lazy). |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Dave F
I can't remember, was the raw one at some point in Hal's hands? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan U
"PSA-unknown" category shows 1 PSA 5 with only the Gretzky 8 higher |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: peter ullman
hals was nowhere near ex. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: pas
Hal's was an SGC 10. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan
Wasn't Hal's sold last year at the Mastro live auction in Cleveland ? |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Robert Klevens
I was the high bidder last year in Cleveland at $192,000. I am holding the card in the scan. It now belongs to a collector in Japan. It will be interesting to see what this card sells for. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Anonymous
Wow--good luck. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimB
THe other PSA 5 is Scott Ireland's. It is listed on his T206 set in the set registry. I saw that one once before it was his and it is stunning. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimB
Here is the PSA 5mc that is going on the auction block. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: dstudeba
I agree Barry that naming those names on a public chatboard is inappropriate even if a large number of collectors know who they are. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Alan U
It seems like whenever I send a card in miscut like that it comes back as "Authentic" |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
1- only one who should name a name should be the person themselves. |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: JimCrandell
Well, one of thwe most interesting things on this message board to me is who is doing what and who may do what--particularly at the high end and how that impacts the PSA Set Registry. I don't see anything wrong with it and many times I learn who is doing what. For example, I did not know who owned the Wagner PSA 5s. That is important information to me. Also this guy that apparently owns all the slabs and the guy from Janus. Fascinating! |
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T206 Wagner PSA 5 in Mastro Auction - Your Thoughts?
Posted By: Ed Hans
A spectacular card, obviously; but a rather charitable five IMO. |
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