Card that has appreciated the most in value in last 20 years?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:

Compare Stats to Similars
Pete Browning (878)
Elmer Flick (869) *
Riggs Stephenson (854)
Earle Combs (853) *
Tip O'Neill (844)
Baby Doll Jacobson (840)
Joe Vosmik (839)
Ross Youngs (826) *
Bibb Falk (826)
John Stone (821)

Not exactly elite company.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:

Peter - are you comparing career stats or average season stats? Because his career was cut short...

Don't get me wrong - his card value is certainly bolstered by the Black-Sox mystique, but he was one of the elite players of his day with a .356 career average.

[Peter_Spaeth]

That is from baseball reference, career stats. Obviously he would compare much more favorably on a per season basis, but my opinion is that a career is the more important yardstick.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That is from baseball reference, career stats. Obviously he would compare much more favorably on a per season basis, but my opinion is that a career is the more important yardstick.

This is also from Baseball-Reference - it compares his stats through age 30 (when he was banned) with other's through age 30:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/fr...page=30&age=30

[prewarsports]

Cards of the Black Sox players (excluding Joe Jackson) were commons until right about 20 years ago and even Jackson sold on par with other stars and Hall of Famers but not anywhere near the levels he gets now. That means you could pick up Zeenuts of Lefty Williams and others for a couple of bucks. I dont think you can beat those percentages.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

Cards of the Black Sox players (excluding Joe Jackson) were commons until right about 20 years ago and even Jackson sold on par with other stars and Hall of Famers but not anywhere near the levels he gets now. That means you could pick up Zeenuts of Lefty Williams and others for a couple of bucks. I dont think you can beat those percentages.

That seems to be the common conclusion and makes sense as the Black-Sox research and movies have driven up the value. Removing the Black-Sox form the equation, I wonder what's next in line? This would be a card where the price has been driven more by interest in the issue/scarcity then by a movie.

[Cat]

In the late 80s a Southworth Zeenut would of been thrown into a stack and cost you $2 or $3. Last week, someone paid nearly $3K for it.

[JasonL]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jackson valuations are in my opinion quite disproportionate to his accomplishments. Of course there is an explanation for this, the Black Sox and the "what if" questions had he completed his career, and the fact that he appears on relatively few cards. Still, on the theory that one can only judge a player by his actual achievements, here are the batters he is most comparable to statistically:

Compare Stats to Similars
Pete Browning (878)
Elmer Flick (869) *
Riggs Stephenson (854)
Earle Combs (853) *
Tip O'Neill (844)
Baby Doll Jacobson (840)
Joe Vosmik (839)
Ross Youngs (826) *
Bibb Falk (826)
John Stone (821)

Not exactly elite company.

He did it all WITHOUT SHOES!!!

[E93]

I would say the top three would be:

Baltimore News Ruth
T210 Joe Jackson
T206 Wagner

Less than ten years ago, a person could have gotten a T206 Wagner for 50k. I think the first one to crack 100k was only about seven years ago. Several have now sold in excess of 300k and the SGC 10 example in REA a few months back went for 400k.

I bet, in terms of percentage, the BN Ruth has probably done better - largely thanks to good promotion and auction catalog write-ups. Ooops... did I actually say that on Net 54?
JimB

[E93]

Honorable mention goes to a number of rare 19th century cards like the 4 Base Hits Kelly and some tough KBats, etc.
JimB

[Epps]

The Ruth went up a lot, but I think that recently it has cooled down a bit.
I agree with the Black Sox cards. It's a bummer that they have shot up in the past couple of years.

[Leon]

I think the biggest percentage gains could be some T206 backs. What did a BL460 go for 20 yrs ago and what does it go for today? A few dollars to a few thousand......that's a large percentage. regards

[Bicem]

maybe a better question is which (if any) cards have NOT appreciated much?