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Old 04-06-2010, 12:55 PM
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craig...i think he was kidding!!!
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:57 PM
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craig...i think he was kidding!!!

I most certainly was!!!!! It was a joke in reference to the recent JP + BL460 fiasco. No harm intended!
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:13 PM
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craig...i think he was kidding!!!
I'm reasonably sure he knew that.

Well done Craig. Now you can take your tongue out of your cheek.
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I'm glad Jim R asked first because I respect his knowledge when it
comes to the tougher backs so the answer must not be obvious.

Why are they no-prints?
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:58 PM
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I appreciate your sense of humor.
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:01 PM
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I knew you'd ask. I will post the list of "No Prints" in a moment.

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Ted,

I thought all these back set lists where created from known existing cards. How where these list created otherwise?
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Old 04-06-2010, 02:44 PM
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These confirmed and "No-Print" lists are the results of my research, while collecting my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set,
in which I discovered that AB 460 and UZIT cards were printed as pairs. And, that BL 460 and Red HINDU cards were as
pairs. Furthermore, these two sets of pairs are mutually exclusive. That is, you will not find a BL 460 and a UZIT back on
the same subject. Also, you will not find a BL 460 and an AB 460 back on the same subject.

Please keep in mind, that these stated rules apply only to the 62 cards in the 350/460 series....of which the BL 460 cards
are from.

I hope I have answered your question. If not, I'll try again.

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Default $10 REWARD for finding any of these 28 - BL 460 "No-Prints"

Here are the 28 cards which I am stating were not printed with the BROAD LEAF 460 back.

Prove me wrong, and for every one of the following cards you confirm with a BL 460 back,
I will reward you with a Hamilton Greenback !

350/460 Series cards..............28 - "No-Prints"

Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


Happy hunting, guys......


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I have never owned any of the 28 no prints.
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I'm glad Jim R asked first because I respect his knowledge when it
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Why are they no-prints?
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Ditto to what frankb22 says.
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Ted,

I understand that you know which 26 different BL460s exist, and which 8 are likely to exist, but do you have any population numbers (total graded and/or non-graded) on any of the known cards? For instance I've seen at least 3 different Addie Joss and Charlie O'leary BL460s each, but have yet to see most that are on the confirmed list. Are most of the known BL460s 1 of 1?

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These last few years checking and rechecking the confirmed front back combos looks like it has really paid off. Your AB 460 collection is also key-it has outlined the BL460/red Hindu pairs and the AB460/Uzit pairs and to say with some certainty that there are no prints and exactly which cards.

This is huge for this set. This set is very hard to understand but this is definately making it easier. You being retired and able to spend countless hours figuring this out is priceless. I think I will let you hang out with me at the next Philly show...

All joking aside-thank you so much-you know this is my favorite set because of the backs and the Baltimore players in it-this is great stuff. I am still learning new things about this set every day.

I also want to thank a few collectors( you know who you are) that are very low key but do share their information with us that helps gather all this and make it possible.

Frank -thank you for your kind words.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:30 PM
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Ted, truly great information. Insightful.

Can this similarity of printing be applied to earlier 350 press runs?

And Jim, you're right to thank those that forward information. As it trickles in the mozaic of the white border cards becomes more defined.

Frank W.
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