What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

[vintagewhitesox]

Originally Posted by hangman62

Jim B..how smug and cocky can you possibly be ?
Telling a guy..sit back and listen and learn ! PLEASE
Its a blog site for card collectors !
OK you do all the reseach and detailed critiques.. and we will all bow down to your allmighty " nerdness"

I'm sorry, but Jim is anything but smug and cocky. He's one of the nicest, kindest, and extremely generous with his hobby knowledge.

Jim can speak for himself, but I just had to respond to such an off the mark comment.

[brickyardkennedy]

I can suffer the "cockiness", if that's what it is, of those who know what they're talking about. It's the ill-informed assertions of those who don't know what they're talking about, that troubles me. Jim belongs to the former group.

[Griffins]

JimB is the epitome of humility- a quiet gentleman that is very generous with his wealth of knowledge on this subject, among others. The fact that he has exhausted his patience on this thread is a testament to just how inane Chicago's posts are.

[ullmandds]

If you're too lazy to read the whole thread...you obviously don't care enough to learn why this card is so debated.

[FrankWakefield]

I still don't think we should consider the card a T206.

The gloss is the main reason, and enough of a reason for me. That there is only one card with that back bolsters that. And it seems to me that some folks pull and tug at reasons because they seem to want it included. Nonetheless, it is a fine baseball card. Wish I had one. And if I did have one I'd not think it a T206. It reminds me of the first E90-3 I acquired, long before I knew anything at all about American Caramel cards. Seemed like an E90-1 with 'Chicago' on the back... As for tobacco stains, they mean nothing to me. I have a few E cards with what I think are tobacco stains. And some E cards with caramel stains. If I find a T205 with an ink stain would that mean it was distributed with a pen set, or with ink??

[PWeso81]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

If you're too lazy to read the whole thread...you obviously don't care enough to learn why this card is so debated.

Point taken. I am only a few months IN on this forum. I gotta tell ya, some of the most entertaining fodder I have ever read. I love this site. People I work with ask "Why do you collect cards?" I say..."Have you ever checked out N54?"

[ethicsprof]

PWeso81,
I applaud your lack of defensiveness and your general equanimity in your response to Dr. Ullman.
Most refreshing.
Let me offer to you a resounding 'Welcome aboard!'
best,
barry

[ethicsprof]

Anthony has said it well. JimB is the epitome of humility and ,for some time now, has been one of the key experts, if not the foremost expert, on
Cobb/Cobb back. When he speaks of these things, I listen and take notes like
my best doctoral students at the university do.

by the way, great eye re: the tobacco stain Jon C.
very,very helpful.

best,
barry

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by vintagewhitesox

I'm sorry, but Jim is anything but smug and cocky. He's one of the nicest, kindest, and extremely generous with his hobby knowledge.

Jim can speak for himself, but I just had to respond to such an off the mark comment.

I'll second that. Jim is top shelf! If Jim was a Scotch at a bar he would be $45a glass and you would have to find away to hide the expense report from your boss.

[Griffins]

So we should just refer to him as 18 year old Macallan?

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Griffins

So we should just refer to him as 18 year old Macallan?

LOL, just what Jim wanted a new nickname..

Alright I'll pile in on this discussion. I'm on the fence as to if this is a T206 or not. There are strong points that could make this a good ol' T206. But there are some others that keep me on the fence.

One of those is and correct me if I'm wrong didn't a large % of the known examples of this card come from one find in the south? I find it odd that if we say have 12-14 of something and close to half come from one find in one geographical area something seems odd?

Does anyone know the deatils around the find I'm talking about or is this hobby folk lore passed on to me as a kid?

Cheers,

John

[JP]

Yes, 5 of the dozen or so known were found in 1997 and immediately auctioned off by REA...according to this writeup.

[E93]

Originally Posted by JP

Yes, 5 of the dozen or so known were found in 1997 and immediately auctioned off by REA...according to this writeup.

They were all found in the album of a Georgia general store owner from the period if I remember correctly.
JimB

[Preece1]

Hi JimB

I recall that they were found not in an album, but loose in the pages of a book (I know I am splitting hairs). The gentlemen that presented the find to REA was from Georgia and the book had been in the family (always lived in Georgia).

And if I remember correctly, the book was a first edition, printed in March, 1910 and the cards were placed in the book ever since they were acquired in a tin of Ty Cobb Tobacco. I would have mentioned this information earlier, but I thought everyone knew this! (just kidding)