The Net54 virtual T206 set, alphabetically...

[tedzan]

I thnk this 2nd card of Willis is a "pink" color printing error ? ?





TED Z

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LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)

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[jerrys]

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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Robert Edgar Willett......is the correct name

Some here may question the inclusion of a 1910 COUPON card....however, there are a good number of us on this forum
that definitely agree these are indeed T206 cards.

TED Z

Ted,

I agree that the 1910 Coupon cards deserve serious consideration as T206 offerings. Others would disagree.

In the interest of making this a complete (and unqualified) set, I ask that the board post a Robert Edgar Willett...with a back that is generally accepted by mainstream collectors as a T206.

Please know that this is not a knock on you. I sincerely appreciate everything you have done for this thread. And I personally thank you for your contributions.

To everyone...a genuine T206 Wagner that is posted by a board member who owns it, at any stage of this thread, would also be something for which I would be truly grateful. Powell...KO...anyone?

Best Regards,

Eric

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Texxxx

As far as where to go after this thread is over, we could start a back run for every pose. That would keep it going for a year or so. After we had all we could for each pose someone can put them together.

Bruce,

This is an excellent idea. I would be honored to shift the focus of this thread after the final sixteen subjects have been posted.

I would compile the front/back combinations shown here on an Excel Worksheet. After this, if the board is open to the idea, I can change the title of this thread. Instead of "The Net54 virtual T206 set, alphabetically," it would be,"The Net54 virtual T206 Master Set."

Just a thought. Please let me know what you think, everyone. And...keep 'em coming. We still have 16 cards to go.

Best Regards,

Eric

[teetwoohsix]

Backtrack a little per Eric's request....

Also, I'd love to see a real board member owned Wagner posted as well

Sincerely, Clayton

(T213-1 is not a T206, why are you trying to re-invent the wheel Ted? (jk))

[teetwoohsix]

Back to Willis.....

Sincerely, Clayton

~ Sorry, forgot about Willis batting (which I don't have)

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[tedzan]

TED Z

[tedzan]

TED Z

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LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)

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Cy Young Hindu

[Sean]

Ted, great Uzit, and I love that Puttman proof.

I'm curious about the T213 Coupons. I own some Type-2 and Type-3, which have the different printing font and color. The Type-1 looks like the T206 font. And they were printed during the same time period as the T206s. This is why you consider them to be part of the set?
Were the Coupons all lumped together as one issue because they were from the same manufacturer, instead of being divided into separate issues?
What do they feel like? Are they glossy or are they the same as T206s?
And while I'm bothering you, what about Red Cross. I believe some of them were printed in 1910. Do you also consider them to be T206s ?
As you can see, there's a lot I don't know about this. I appreciate any help you can provide.

[tedzan]

CYoung (glove)




TED Z

__________________________________________________ _____________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)

[Texxxx]

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[3-2-count]

A late Cy portrait to the party.

[tedzan]

Double post.

[t206blogcom]

Sadly, no longer in my collection:

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by tedzan

TED Z

Ted,

For some reason, Jimmy Williams is no longer showing on my screen. If you would please re-post, it would be greatly appreciated.

Additionally, we still have yet to see a bona fide Wagner from a Net54 board member. Please reach out to those who have advanced collections and help finish this thread.

Two more to go, everyone. Let's finish strong.

Best Regards,

Eric

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Sean

Ted, great Uzit, and I love that Puttman proof.

I'm curious about the T213 Coupons. I own some Type-2 and Type-3, which have the different printing font and color. The Type-1 looks like the T206 font. And they were printed during the same time period as the T206s. This is why you consider them to be part of the set?
Were the Coupons all lumped together as one issue because they were from the same manufacturer, instead of being divided into separate issues?
What do they feel like? Are they glossy or are they the same as T206s?
And while I'm bothering you, what about Red Cross. I believe some of them were printed in 1910. Do you also consider them to be T206s ?
As you can see, there's a lot I don't know about this. I appreciate any help you can provide.

Hi Sean,

Here's a great thread that covers quite a bit of ground regarding your questions: http://net54baseball.com/showthread....t213-1+vs+t206

Sincerely, Clayton

[Sean]

Thanks Clayton.

Nice Zimmerman. Great way to end the thread.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by Sean

Thanks Clayton.

Nice Zimmerman. Great way to end the thread.

Thanks

I don't want the thread to end

Sincerely, Clayton

[insccollectibles]

Great thread everyone! Thank you to everyone for sharing some of your set with us!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Ted,

For some reason, Jimmy Williams is no longer showing on my screen. If you would please re-post, it would be greatly appreciated.

Additionally, we still have yet to see a bona fide Wagner from a Net54 board member. Please reach out to those who have advanced collections and help finish this thread.

Two more to go, everyone. Let's finish strong.

Best Regards,

Eric

TED Z

[Jantz]

We need to end this thread properly...with some freaks!

Jantz

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Sean

Ted, great Uzit, and I love that Puttman proof.

I'm curious about the T213 Coupons. I own some Type-2 and Type-3, which have the different printing font and color. The Type-1 looks like the T206 font. And they were printed during the same time period as the T206s. This is why you consider them to be part of the set?
Were the Coupons all lumped together as one issue because they were from the same manufacturer, instead of being divided into separate issues?
What do they feel like? Are they glossy or are they the same as T206s?
And while I'm bothering you, what about Red Cross. I believe some of them were printed in 1910. Do you also consider them to be T206s ?
As you can see, there's a lot I don't know about this. I appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks for the compliments and some good questions regarding the 1910 COUPON issue.

I will start by saying that Jeff Burdick's records regarding the the 1910 COUPON cards indicate that he was unaware that the "T213-1" were printed and issued in 1910.
Burdick's records show that this issue is dated circa 1914-1919 along with the other two COUPON issues (T213-2 & T213-3). We now know this was incorrect info.

The 1910 COUPON cards are indeed identical in all respects to their T206 counterparts....with this exception....these cards were printed on thinner cardboard stock.

My theory regarding the thinner stock is that these cards were never intended to be used as "stiffiners" in tobacco packs. No cigarette pack has ever been found label-
led "COUPON" cigarettes. However, cartons labelled "COUPON" Cigarettes have been found that would have contained 100's of this brand of cigarettes.


1910 RED CROSS

Yes, I'm of the school that considers the 1st series of RED CROSS cards (circa 1910) should have been classified as T206's.


Best regards,

TED Z

[Eric72]

Please allow me a moment to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I sincerely appreciate all of your contributions and am grateful for your time and efforts.

Since joining Net54, this has been my favorite endeavor. To witness the board working in concert to build this virtual T206 set has been a tremendous experience. Not only have I learned a great deal, about the set and many of the board members here, it has been incredibly fun.

I tip my hat to all of you fine people for everything that you have done to help this, "neat idea for a thread" take a life of its own.

Once again, thank you all very much...and happy collecting.

Best Regards,

Eric

[wazoo]

Thank you Eric. This kind of thread was a great idea. I enjoyed viewing every different card, it was fun

Best regards,
Wazoo

[t206blogcom]

Enjoyed it.

What's next?

[jp1216]

How about 1980 Topps?

Eric, great thread. Thanks to everyone that contributed.

[t206blogcom]

Originally Posted by jp1216

How about 1980 Topps?

But 1988 would be so much better!

[Sean]

How about that Master set idea?

[the 'stache]

This was so much fun, Eric. Great idea, and well executed! BTW, I am blaming you for my T206 addiction.

Thanks to everybody who helped out. This really is the best community on the net. You guys make logging in every day an absolute joy.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by ins02

Great thread everyone! Thank you to everyone for sharing some of your set with us!

Ditto

[insccollectibles]

Originally Posted by Sean

How about that Master set idea?

+1 and it would have some longevity so we wouldn't all have this empty feeling

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by t206blogcom

Enjoyed it.

What's next?

Start another thread with another popular pre-war set like CJ or Goudey ..

[obcbeatle]

What a great thread! Best I've seen on Net54 so far. I just spent much of this week going thru and looking at all the great Monster cards. I learned a lot. Some examples:

1) I saw many great looking cards with rich color that were lower grade. In fact ... most of my favorite cards were not graded :-)

2) Loved being able to see all the different backs that I read about but rarely see. Like the Old Mill Brown Back Sid Smith ... well I could go on. Just a great education on T-206 backs in this thread. But would like to see more!

3) The mis-cut cards lead me to a ton of questions ... like are there any know uncut T-206 sheets in existence; did the sheets have just one player on them e.g., I saw a few mis-cut top/bottom cards that lead me to believe that the same player was above and/or below ... ?

4) Some of the scans were high resolution and clearly brought out the backgrounds that the American Lithograph Company created that reminded me of some Conlon photo's of the period. Thus ... I guess many/most of the T-206's were based on original photo's by a handful of period photographers?

5) I made a list of my favorite card poses as I went thru the entire thread and noticed that many of my favorites were poses where the player was wearing a jersey/sweater with the team name logo prominent. Again ... reminiscent of many original Conlon photo's I've seen and enjoyed.

Bottomline ... a great thread and resource that I will continue to use as I educate myself on this historic "T" set. Thanks to everyone for sharing their time/photo's!

[tedzan]

Hey Guys

I have started the "T206 backs Extravaganza......" thread in order to continue our T206 "fix" ............

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174823

Check-it-out and post your various and sundry T206 backs.


TED Z

[obcbeatle]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Guys

I have started the "T206 backs Extravaganza......" thread in order to continue our T206 "fix" ............

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174823

Check-it-out and post your various and sundry T206 backs.


TED Z

Thanks Ted ... I just subscribed to that thread too. Some fantastic T-206 backs so far ... thanks so much for sharing!

[obcbeatle]

I forgot to add to my list yesterday that after looking thru all the cards, I found it a bit surprising that there were so few Piedmont 42 backs. I guess they are a little rarer than I thought.