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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Barry, I have to agree with Dave on this one regarding the claim that 'justice was served' re the Nicole murder. I suspect the fact that everyone hates OJ so much (deservedly so) that we tend to believe that Nicole's murder was avenged here; it wasn't. While I don't shed a tear for OJ, the truth is that it is inconceivable that anyone else but OJ would have been taken to trial in Vegas for what went down especially considering how ridiculous the state's witnesses were. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Dave- I can't read the minds of the jurors and explain why they convicted him. Maybe it was based purely on the facts, maybe it was retribution. I can't even tell you if it was biased or not. I don't know. |
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Posted By: Ryan Christoff
Dave, |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I think the dates of the jury verdict of this Las Vegas case and the California murder trial have the verdicts being returned on October 4th of 1995, and on October 4th of 2008. |
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Posted By: Mike
I don't recall ever hearing if OJ was offered a plea deal similar to the other co-defendants. Jeff, doesnt that make it look like he was a target if all other offered deal so they will turn on him? I agree with the statement that it seems justice might fail OJ like it failed the Browns and Goldmans. I have seen him around enjoying his celebrity status over the last 10 years here in Miami and when the pretty blonde girls want pictures with him, its not because he won the Heisman or set rushing records. He should have been a choir boy for the rest of his life and this never would have happened. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Mike, I suspect it was because OJ was deemed to be the ringleader that he was not offered a cooperation deal to testify against his purported underlings. If that was the case, I don't have a problem with it; however, if he wasn't offered a non-cooperation plea deal that is just unfair. And you're right about his conduct; after getting away with murder you'd think he would have been the most careful, law-abiding guy in the world. Unfortunately, the same bad part of him that led him to kill his wife surfaced again in Vegas. Pitiful. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Jeff you're right about the murder trial of 13 years ago having NOTHING to do with the Vegas trial. At least it should have been a non-factor. And I'd like to think that the attorneys and judge got a jury panel that would discount that, then be vigilant about keeping any reference to it out of the trial. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
" Simpson's voice came through loud and clear: "Don't let nobody out of this room." " |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Adam, agreed. All that being said, however, 5 years of prison time is a fair sentence in my mind for what he did (in Vegas). My problem with the handling of the case has more to do with the bizarre nature of the witnesses and evidence. How often do you see the main piece of evidence -- the purported tape of the incident -- sold to a tabloid TV program before it being given to the police? And how often do you have witnesses heard on tape claiming they'd be willing to change their testimony for money? I guess only in an OJ case.... |
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie
It's hard to feel sorry for OJ even if you think he got a bit of a raw deal during this trial. martyOgelvie |
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Posted By: Mike
Jury: O.J. not guilty |
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Posted By: GeorgeHC
Former football great O.J. Simpson was sentenced today to at least 15 years in prison for his role in a confrontation in a Las Vegas hotel in 2007. Simpson told the judge before the sentence was read that did not mean to hurt anyone and did not know he was doing anything illegal. "I didn't mean to steal anything from anybody." |
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Posted By: Alan U
He's eligible for parole in 6 |
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Posted By: Dave S
Jeff, I know you were more optimistic that the wheels of justice would actually work here, but... |
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Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen
Does anyone think that the Cowboys or Raiders will give OJ a shot at resuming his NFL career when he gets out? That's of course presuming he can get by the commissioner's inevitable suspension. |
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Posted By: leon
Now this is a good example of when a thread can be brought back. |
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Posted By: JB
He will do 5 if his health holds up...............(which isnt near long enough for me) |
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie
After getting away with murder, OJ must have thought he was invinceable. It's a shame really because I have many fond memories of the Juice when he played. My memory is pretty bad but if I recall correctly, OJ was the first athlete that I liked and cheered for who didn't play for my Team.
marty |
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Posted By: Jim Thierfelder
Has anyone ever been thrown out of a pro sports HOF? He is a case for uninduction if ever there was one. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
I watched the entire sentencing procedure yesterday. The comments by OJ's attorneys, was IMO pathetic. Had OJ found a bit less hubris early on and pled guilty, he wouldn't have been slammed as he was. It became very obvious that the judge had her mind made up regardless of OJ's almost tearful begging for forgiveness. Ever the arrogant, bullet-proof thinking psycho, OJ thought he could get away with just about anything on this planet. He'll now have at least 9 years to think about his recent actions and undoubtedly will ponder the events on Bundy with his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. |
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Posted By: Frank L.
Mr. Christoff |
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Posted By: Bob
According to the articles I have read today, OJ will not be eligible for parole until he serves 9 years (not 5 or 6) and it appears that he may not make parole the first go round, so I look for him to serve 10 years. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
Kenneth, that was funny stuff. |
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Posted By: Mike
OJ GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM AND COULD HAVE AVOIDED IT IF HE DIDNT FEEL HE WAS G-DS GIFT TO THE EARTH AND WAS MADE OF TEFLON. HE WILL ADAPT TO PRISON WELL AS HE IS ONE OF THE MOST CHARISMATIC FIGURES AND WILL BE LOVED BY THE FELLOW INMATES. HIS NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY WILL HELP HIM THROUGH THE NEXT DECADE AND HE WILL GET A TON OF LETTERS FROM BEAUTIFUL BLONDES |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Considering that he was facing a 5 year minimum and ended up with 9, OJ didn't do too badly. I had set an under/over of 10 years. |
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Posted By: Mike
Plaxico was just a repeat offender who like OJ couldnt walk a straight line. Jeff, I am not sure if you will agree with this analogy but when my 8 year old breaks something her first reaction is it was an accident and I always say to her if you weren't jumping on the sofa, you wouldnt have "accidently" knocked over the vase. |
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Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen
I was talking to a retired DC cop friend who believes that the same situation in |
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Posted By: Bill Stone
OJ freshly squeezed---Mike- I don't think OJ will be "loved " by his fellow inmates in the way you think. In fact, he will be in a Nevada state prison and I suspect he will be under constant threat and therefore he will spend a great deal of time alone and considering his free lifestyle beforehand I think prison life will be very hard on him. Prison justice doesn't require a jury. |
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Posted By: dennis
there is already 'talk' that once imprisoned fox will air a reality show staring OJ. it will be called "the simpsons, d'oh J " |
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Posted By: Steve F
Good for the Goldman family... Being out of the limelight's gotta be a fate worse than death for this media darling. |
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Posted By: Dave S
It sounds like most of the people here are glad OJ is going to prison because he is a black celebrity and is perceived to be guilty of having gotten away with murder of a couple white people. |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
That's shooting a little low. I will tell you this: any proper-thinking white person is likely ashamed of the Evers incident, with good reason. The majority of our race would not have cheered if De La Beckwith had been found innocent. That's truly a terrible and unfair comparison. For many, this is a celebrity-driven case, not a race-driven one. |
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Posted By: Ken McMillan
We neuter aggressive dogs in order to calm them down, How about neutering OJ? |
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Posted By: Bill Stone
OUCH ! That's hitting below the belt -------so to speak. |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Dave, |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
I heard O.J. will play tight end in prison. |
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Posted By: Dave S
Hey Greg, |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Dave, |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
This would never have happened if he just let lawyers handle the memorabilia mess from beginning. Even though he was found innocent in the court of law, with his notorierty, I would have kept as far as from any trouble as possible. I guess he thought he must have been invinsible. |
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Posted By: Steve F
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Posted By: Dave S
My sincere apologies to all of good people here who take up the cause for truth, justice, and the American way and baseball cards. Especially the BB cards part. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
It's all about convictions, nothing more. There is no moral compunction about giving away the courthouse to a killer as long as prosecutors get a conviction. I can't tell you how many trials I've been on in which the cooperating witnesses have committed murder and are out free, roaming among the public -- and testifying against defendants not charged with as severe crimes. |
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Posted By: J Levine
I said I was going to stay away from this since I was flamed on my email for nonsense but I need to get a few things off my chest. |
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Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Dave, |
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Posted By: Eric Pugh
Enjoy your decade or so in prison. Hope you get a chance to reflect on Ronald Goldman and your ex Nicole. |
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