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Old 12-08-2023, 10:48 AM
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Default Calling Blapo out here

Now, this would be an odd coincidence - but I believe Bla.po is a member here. Same username here as ebay. Sort of a unique name if it's not.

Need to call attention to this and call it out. Why can't people just show gratitude and not be the guy that ruins it?

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Old 12-08-2023, 11:09 AM
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I find this incredibly frustrating. One because i don’t have an Evan’s to cash in with, and now there is yet a new card that will likely cost me thousands in order to finish the 520.

This may be the event that ultimately makes me quit this effort. What a racket.

I wouldn't worry about it long-term, though I'd just put it on the back burner for now. You could also just check for his cards more often, because some are likely going to slip through the cracks from people who don't know.

This collector might have endless amounts of money, but getting enough of these cards that they are harder to find than cards like O'Hara and Demmitt would take years to do. The price will then eventually settle down. Maybe you have to pay more than you would have two months ago, but it's not going to be crazy.
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My thoughts:

I don’t really want to sell it
One just sold for $11K that was listed for $18K
If the buyer isn’t interested no harm, no foul
If he wants Evan’s so bad he is willing to pay…his deal not mine….

Frankly I would guess nothing happens, I pull it in a few days and life goes on.

Will be interesting to see the long term affects and how long this guy keeps this up….
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Now, this would be an odd coincidence - but I believe Blapo is a member here. Same username here as ebay. Sort of a unique name if it's not.

Need to call attention to this and call it out. This is disgusting. Why can't people just show gratitude and not be the guy that ruins it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33515647657...Bk9SR6bqr6iJYw

I don’t understand what there is to call out.
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So... anybody know (or want to disclose) why this person is spending all this cash on the Evans T206?
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Blapo - I understand the price point, but conflating the idea that this is an extremely rare is disingenuous. Sure it is that gray line, but I think generally that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than that being okay. I just posted one with the exact same feature, and a ton of the Polar Bears have the same thing.
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The one that sold for 10k seemed to have St. Louis missing. I know there is a lot of skepticism on those cards though.

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The one that sold for 10k was a legitimate error - with St. Louis not being on the jersey.
Just to note - it’s a card altered or faded to remove the red layer. It’s not a legitimate error. There’s a reason missing red cards are seen so often. It did not leave the factory that way.
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Just to note - it’s a card altered or faded to remove the red layer. It’s not a legitimate error. There’s a reason missing red cards are seen so often. It did not leave the factory that way.




Definitely a fair argument. I hadn't heard about it since this weekend, when someone mentioned it on facebook. I was skeptical then, but do know that there are people on both sides of the pink/red issues in T206.

WHen I saw it mentioned on Facebook, I made an assumption that the person had seen it in a pop report on PSA (which even if its there - it does not solidify it as being a legitimate error)
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Apparently it sold for $10500
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So... anybody know (or want to disclose) why this person is spending all this cash on the Evans T206?
Christmas gifts ?

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Old 12-08-2023, 01:37 PM
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So... anybody know (or want to disclose) why this person is spending all this cash on the Evans T206?
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Eric i was thinking the same thing. Maybe Evans is someone great grandfather or relative and thus would be a cool gift to give to members of the family.
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Number go up!
Why not 25K? Blapo is like a market maker on a stock with a hostile takeover, like in the movie Wallstreet. When the float dries up, it could blast through his high ask.

By the numbers... PSA pop

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Someone may have already done this but I checked the last 8 ebay t206 Evans auctions , starting September 11 someone with a Feedback of (47) has won Seven of the eight auctions and finish second in the other

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Someone may have already done this but I checked the last 8 ebay t206 Evans auctions , starting September 11 someone with a Feedback of (47) has won Seven of the eight auctions and finish second in the other
In the one this feedback buyer (47) lost, he lost by 33 cents (the winner did put in an additional bid in the last few seconds of the auction, just in case (47) put in another bid). Bet that one stings for (47).

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Imagine if you are this seller, who sold his Carolina Brights Evans thinking he made a great sell, then realizing the buyer would have paid a lot more (i.e. $8500 for a "rare" no St. Louis variation).

BTW, shout out to JPWINN for mentioning 130 point! I'd never heard about that before but what a great site.
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Why not 25K? Blapo is like a market maker on a stock with a hostile takeover, like in the movie Wallstreet. When the float dries up, it could blast through his high ask.

By the numbers... PSA pop

O'Hara Stl PB--- 344
Demmitt Stl PB- 361
Evans all backs--358
what this doesn't even remotely account for is the fact that, due to their notoriety a much higher percentage of available O'Hara and Demmitt are graded. Versus a dead common. I'm just making up numbers but if, for the sake of argument we say half of all O'Hara and Demmitt St. Louis are graded I'd be shocked if 1/20th of all Evans are.
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what this doesn't even remotely account for is the fact that, due to their notoriety a much higher percentage of available O'Hara and Demmitt are graded. Versus a dead common. I'm just making up numbers but if, for the sake of argument we say half of all O'Hara and Demmitt St. Louis are graded I'd be shocked if 1/20th of all Evans are.
I know. Anytime I say Demmitt and O'Hara are not rare by my definition, the pitchforks break out. haha.

I think the Evans card's pop will rocket up by next month.

Nice cards, Jeff.

I'm kind of surprised more people are not interested in this topic. I've never seen something like this. It makes no sense. Why isn't he buying the 1915 Cracker Jack on eBay for $283 from TonyETrade?
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Why isn't he buying the 1915 Cracker Jack on eBay for $283 from TonyETrade?
Probably doesn't trust Tony.

Or maybe he hasn't discovered that this player is on other issues in addition to the T206.
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Presumably this guy just wants the T206. Paying money for cardboard pictures isn't really logical in the first place. There's not going to be some logical reason for this, some idiot is doing a thing because they want to do that.
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I know. Anytime I say Demmitt and O'Hara are not rare by my definition, the pitchforks break out. haha.



I think the Evans card's pop will rocket up by next month.



Nice cards, Jeff.



I'm kind of surprised more people are not interested in this topic. I've never seen something like this. It makes no sense. Why isn't he buying the 1915 Cracker Jack on eBay for $283 from TonyETrade?
Why? Because the buyer is going to get his all graded or because you and other T206 collectors are going to decide to get yours graded?

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I find this incredibly frustrating. One because i don’t have an Evan’s to cash in with, and now there is yet a new card that will likely cost me thousands in order to finish the 520.

This may be the event that ultimately makes me quit this effort. What a racket.
You most likely will never finish this set anyway.
The big 4 are impossible.
Enjoy the ride. Once this guy gets his fill the price will come back to normal. No one else will pay these crazy prices.

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Mine would probably grade Auth. If you had a nice good to very good T206 Evans and Probstein or Just Collect offered you $350 for it today, would you sell it to them? No, it's a valuable card now, and people send valuable cards like Ty Cobb to be graded before selling.
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Let's see if its valuable in a month.
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Hasn't it (the 50 or so sales above $1000 or whatever it is now) damaged the idea that it's a $61 card? Titus sells at low tier hofer prices years after the Titus guy stopped buying.
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Hasn't it (the 50 or so sales above $1000 or whatever it is now) damaged the idea that it's a $61 card? Titus sells at low tier hofer prices years after the Titus guy stopped buying.
It's not a $61 card today. It may well be again in 1 month. Price is not a perpetual upward arrow. Many hoarded cards no longer have a premium. You can get a 1964 Topps Curt Flood for $3 on COMC right now in VG+ range. Whether a card keeps a premium is dependent on 1) the driving anomaly factor remaining in perpetuity (this clown paying the fortune for them) and 2) if hobbyists try to keep pumping the card after.

It helps Titus that a lot of people jumped in on the bandwagon, made it a meme card, and his premium was relatively modest. Titus wasn't $2K.

I personally doubt anyone else is going to be stupid enough to pay anywhere near these thousands for a common card of a common player. Factor 1 is unlikely to remain for very long.
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It's not a $61 card today. It may well be again in 1 month. Price is not a perpetual upward arrow. Many hoarded cards no longer have a premium. You can get a 1964 Topps Curt Flood for $3 on COMC right now in VG+ range. Whether a card keeps a premium is dependent on 1) the driving anomaly factor remaining in perpetuity (this clown paying the fortune for them) and 2) if hobbyists try to keep pumping the card after.

It helps Titus that a lot of people jumped in on the bandwagon, made it a meme card, and his premium was relatively modest. Titus wasn't $2K.

I personally doubt anyone else is going to be stupid enough to pay anywhere near these thousands for a common card of a common player. Factor 1 is unlikely to remain for very long.
I agree we should revisit the topic in a month, or whenever we find out what's going on. He bought 4 more on eBay today. $8000 best offer accepted for a small color shift nothing burger. Why is he haggling like me on the bst offering $11 for a T218 track and field card when the seller wants $15?
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You most likely will never finish this set anyway.
The big 4 are impossible.
Enjoy the ride. Once this guy gets his fill the price will come back to normal. No one else will pay these crazy prices.

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Thanks for the encouragement! I thought 520 was attainable? I’m not going for Honus Wagner…
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I agree we should revisit the topic in a month, or whenever we find out what's going on. He bought 4 more on eBay today. $8000 best offer accepted for a small color shift nothing burger. Why is he haggling like me on the bst offering $11 for a T218 track and field card when the seller wants $15?
Presumably because he’s an idiot, crazy, or on a week long coke binge . I would not expect logical actions from a fool like this. He does not need to know much of anything about cards to realize he doesn’t need to pay this much to get a ton of them. I am not against hoarding, but this is probably the stupidest way to go about it possible.

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I went to the Raleigh show today hoping to stumble across one, but no luck. Good show, though. Much more vintage than I'm used to seeing.
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The buyer has bought 10+ from me. I would say he is an interested buyer of only this card.
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I am also curious to see if the spigot turns off after Christmas.
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I am also curious to see if the spigot turns off after Christmas.
I have the feeling this individual is a bottomless pit spigot type of collector.


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Is it over ? 😬
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Hi show us where this buyer has bought 10 plus from you , im very curious thx.
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I was there as well on the same quest!

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I added my Evans to the pile on eBay. I'm not in a selling mode, but if I can sell it and buy a green Cobb... I'm going to take that deal.

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The ship may have sailed. Seems like there has been no New Ebay sales the last 2 days. Congratulations to all who have had the luck to cash in on this Evens buying spree. Unfortunately for me I sold my PSA 5 several Months ago for $250.00 .Still Not sure how the price soar of this card happened.The buyer could have easily picked up these common T206 cards at a small fraction of what he paid if he just stayed patient and stayed under the radar.
Glad that I started this post . Seems like everyone on Net 54 who had an Evens card cashed in .

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The ship may have sailed. Seems like there has been no New Ebay sales the last 2 days. Congratulations to all who have had the luck to cash in on this Evens buying spree. Unfortunately for me I sold my PSA 5 several Months ago for $250.00 .Still Not sure how the price soar of this card happened.The buyer could have easily picked up these common T206 cards at a small fraction of what he paid if he just stayed patient and stayed under the radar.
Glad that I started this post . Seems like everyone on Net 54 who had an Evens card cashed in .

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I kept mine. It was way too sketchy for me to fish. Like Davy Crockett said, "Be sure you're right, then go ahead."

Do you think he got grounded after his Mom opened her paypal bill?
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I kept mine. It was way too sketchy for me to fish. Like Davy Crockett said, "Be sure you're right, then go ahead."

Do you think he got grounded after his Mom opened her paypal bill?
I kept mine, too. However, it was for different reasons.

1 - I'm chipping away at the (520 card) set. I'd hate to go back and try to buy this card again later. Price memory can be stubborn. Dealers can be stubborn, too. I didn't want to go through the futility of discussing comps with people.

2 - Let's say I sold the card on eBay for $3,000. After eBay fees and taxes, roughly half that money would be gone. I'd have possibly traded the card; however, losing half the sale proceeds to fees and taxes seems silly. (actually, silly is the "nice" word I'll use on a public message board.

3 - My copy was a gift from someone a couple years ago. Yes, I realize the card is mine to do with what I choose. I chose to treat it like part of my collection...not an opportunity to make a little quick cash.
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Me too! It’s a shame we don’t know each other!

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I kept mine, too. However, it was for different reasons.

1 - I'm chipping away at the (520 card) set. I'd hate to go back and try to buy this card again later. Price memory can be stubborn. Dealers can be stubborn, too. I didn't want to go through the futility of discussing comps with people.

2 - Let's say I sold the card on eBay for $3,000. After eBay fees and taxes, roughly half that money would be gone. I'd have possibly traded the card; however, losing half the sale proceeds to fees and taxes seems silly. (actually, silly is the "nice" word I'll use on a public message board.

3 - My copy was a gift from someone a couple years ago. Yes, I realize the card is mine to do with what I choose. I chose to treat it like part of my collection...not an opportunity to make a little quick cash.
Congrats on keeping your card. I'm saying if I knew what was going on, i.e.- Justin Verlander is on a spending spree. I would sell to Verlander.

I'm starting to think the people saying the prices will return to normal are right.
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Now that it’s over I’d be a buyer of a low grade <$100 🙃
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I gave my T206 Evans card a verbal warning after he off-handedly suggested that he wouldn't mind a change of scenery to greener pastures.

Let it be known a second instance will be considered insubordination, and could resort in his removal from his T206 brethren to a facility housing strip card inmates.


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...I'm starting to think the people saying the prices will return to normal are right.
I can see that point of view making sense. Personally I feel a little differently about this. I'll post my opinions below. Please know I'm not bickering with you. You brought up an interesting point that makes for a great topic of conversation.

I don't think the T206 Evans will ever go back to pre-spike levels. There are bound to be people who hold on to the hope that there will be another spending spree. In and of itself, that would be enough to create a "floor price" for the card that's higher than the average common from the set.

Plus, there was the pop count before this happened. I'm not drawing a comparison to Demmitt/O'Hara. However, it was submitted less often than other "common" cards. That, to me, is an indicator Evans is a slightly harder card to find than your average T206 common. The way some people blow things out of proportion, there will be claims of "rare" or "scarce" over and over again.

Whether it's truly tough to find...whether or not there's a deep-pocketed buyer...these things won't matter. In my opinion, perception will become part of the reality.

Someone posted above that they'd be a buyer of a low-grade copy for less than $100. Somehow, I don't think the card will sell that low for a long, long, time...if ever. Unless, of course, there's a seller who didn't know about the price spike - AND - Wookjie17 has lightning-fast fingers. The card will disappear in the blink of an eye, scooped up by someone looking to make a fast buck.

So, yeah. I thinks the days of Evans being "Steve who?" and selling cheaply are over. Like someone mentioned earlier, the Titus still bears a premium. That might actually be a good comparison over the long haul.
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I sold mine Saturday morning. I received an insane amount of money. The hype is real! I just need to ship it to the authenticator. The money has already been paid.
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