Anniversary of sets?

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Posted By: john/z28jd

I was wondering if anyone ever noticed a higher interest and/or higher price for sets in the year of a special anniversary such as 50th,75th etc.

Next year after i pay off a few things i plan on collecting the 1956 topps set,not because of the anniversary,because i love the design and the player selection is great and its a lot cheaper than collecting old judges

I was wondering if i picked a bad time(im still doing it regardless) to start,maybe someone who collected 52-55 topps recently or 48-55 bowmans has noticed a trend that the prices seem to go up in that 50th anniversary year?

Makes me wonder if t206s could have a 3 year long party for their 100th anniversary with more new collectors and higher prices.You might want to stock up on those commons in case some big card company plans on inserting the cards again in packs!

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Posted By: Julie

than they have been the past 5 years! I don't think there's any correlation. The prices of the '56 set have either stayed the same or fallen since I completed mine (5 years ago). And (TOOT HORN) I HAVE the '56 Topps set, in mylar, in Vario stockpages, in two albums. Including all dated teams and checklists.

Furthertmore, I'm probably the only person ALIVE who has the '56 Topps set in Mylar (most people who put their cards in Mylar stop at WW2--if not earlier).

Next year will be the 100th anniversary of Fan Craze (all Fan Craze), and while the prices are way, way higher than Lemke's listings, they don't seem to appeal to most serious collectors (except me...and Brian Hodes..unless he's sold all his). I hope to hell there's no correlation...I'd hate to see another big jump next year!



And I'd hate to say what I just paid for a Natio0nal Game Wagner, which lists for $200 in nm.

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Posted By: joe brennan

Just my rookie opinion, but I feel as the T206's approach 100 years old, there will be a flood of press about the set in the year 2008. Prices can only rise as new collectors discover the set. Also young collectors will be 4 years older and will have more income to spend. I see the commons increasing from $40-50 a card to $70-90 in just 4 years. No telling how high the HOF's wil be. I hope to have alot done by then. What do the experts think? Out

"I had the right to remain silent. I just didn't have the ability" Ron White

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Posted By: DJ

There seem to be a million of these T206 cards out there.

You simply can't compare T206's to Mayo's to OJ's to E's.

I hope people aren't thinking that the Jack Chesbro T206 will soon sell for $1000 because the e107 (around the same time frame) sold for five figures in an 'enjoyed' condition.

There are roughly 900 T206 cards on eBay which is a staggering amount. Sure there are more to the set than others and the argument will be that as people get into the hobby, this is usually how you start off, but these cards are everywhere it seems.

Of all the Pre-War Vintage Cards, according to Guides and Price Lists, they have increased the least by a large amounts over the last 20 years.

Good Question and interested in seeing what others think about this subject.

DJ

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Posted By: joe brennan

Great reply DJ. I wasnt saying that these will go up by leaps and bounds but rather a gradual steady slow increase. I remember seeing posters here saying that in the 80's the could pick up commons for $5 and HOF's for $20. So in 20 years they have increased rather nicely. Do you see a time when the prices will decrease? Remember I'm a newbie and only fishing for knowledge. Thanks. Out

"I had the right to remain silent. I just didn't have the ability" Ron White

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Posted By: joe brennan

Speaking of the T206's I have increased my set to 62 as of Monday. Thats 61 since 6/6. My HOF's are up to 10 with a McGraw w/cap SGC 30. It was downgraded because of pen on the back, but the front is really nice and at a great price because of the grade. I would think it would grade a 4 w/o the mark. I think eye appeal is so important, I would rather have pen on the back than a crease. After all we mostly stare at the fronts dont we? If the price is right do others feel this way too? Out

"I had the right to remain silent. I just didn't have the ability" Ron White

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Posted By: DJ

T206's are very steady and always have been and I think always will be. In comparing them to stocks, you would look at them as that boring stock that doesn't impress with sudden price jumps but perhaps manages 8-10% a year in value.

I had a Bank stock that went up $.12 one day, then down $.04 the next and then up $.02 and then down $.07 (yawn) but at the end of the year, was up 11%.

I can't explain what's going on with the other 'tougher' Pre-War issues but I can't see that 'sudden' spike in value with T206's.

A year ago, the T206 multiplier was a very good gauge on the prices of what T206's should sell for. I picked up roughly 20 cards around that mark in four months at this time last year.

Today, T206's sell for a bit more than the multiplier, maybe 15-20% more and that's fine with me as I plug away at my 'monster'. Seeing that the cards have increased over the multiplier is nice and it does show that there is interest in this set and perhaps grabbed a hold of some new collectors along the way.

DJ


edited to add; Congrats Joe! That's what collecting is all about! Getting excited about a purchase, waiting patiently for the mail and adding to your collection. You defined what collecting is all about and keep plugging away.

P.S Creases suck.

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Posted By: T206Collector

Has really proliferated T206 collecting. I do not think that the market is drying up at all, but demand is definitely increasing. I wonder if the increasing demand will have any effect on soaking up the cards, or whether as prices rise people will just start selling, and push prices back down. I think there has been a pretty even balance in this for a few years. I've seen some prices go up quite a bit, particularly PSA 4 and higher Cobbs, but otherwise, I think there's been a steady minor increase over the past four years. I don't think the bubble will burst for a little while anyway, but that's dependent on market conditions outside of baseball card collecting so Alan Greenspan knows as much as anyone.

What I think is always a good sign is when modern baseball card makers try to get in on the vintage market with look-alike cards (e.g., Topps T206, T205, T3, etc.) That means Topps recognizes that vintage is selling better than modern and that a lot of collectors who started on Topps as kids have moved into pre-War cards. With the availability of T206 on ebay, I don't understand why anyone would put down money for a 2005 Derek Jeter card.

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Posted By: joe brennan

Speaking of the Topps T206 inserts, have you noticed the prices for these compared to regular T206's? Modern collectors are willing to pay 25% to 30% more for the fancy borders. I purchased a PSA 5($68). The same card, a 3 at best sold for $73. Go figure.

edited to add. Thanks OJ. I really love this hobby. I think creases suck too.

"I had the right to remain silent. I just didn't have the ability" Ron White

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Posted By: Darren J. Duet

T206 will continue to climb, I have no doubt. I think you'll see more than a steady increase for a while(next 10 years), before things level off.


Check this thread in 10 years to find out who the true experts are(or were).

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Not to take away from the secondary discussion which is an interesting one but has anyone seen in the past a set gaining extra interest just because it was 50 years old(or any other) at that particular time?

Ive said it before tho,i think t206s are always going to be popular because it seems like the first set alot of new collectors of vintage cards goes to.I always believe that the older the set gets the harder it will be too find.Attrition happens,usually by mistake,but you cant stop it(of course anyone could help it along).I see the set getting more press because of its age once it hits 100 and of course since it was produced over 3 years it could be three years of extra press.Since its the most popular vintage set it might be helped the most by turning 100 where as some sets might not get any help by "turning" 100

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Posted By: DJ

When the T206 set turns the 'Century' mark, who will know it and who will care?

Will there be magazine cover stories outside of maybe the sportscard rags who will dedicate one cover to it? Will the 100 year mark be 2009 - 2011? Where were you when the Mayo turned 100?

I don't see a spike in the T206 turning the Century mark. Mostly because it doesn't have the year before it but a letter and how many novices even know when the 'Wagner' year card was created?

DJ

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Obviously no one knows what will happen but my main question wasnt whether t206s will gain in popularity,its whether its happened in the past.I guess if anyone collects 52-55 topps they would be able to answer that but then again maybe they didnt notice or make the correlation