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Old 09-09-2017, 05:44 PM
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He was specifically asking about 1952 Gray Backs, not all the other mechanical errors that PSA puts together. That is what your comment seemed to convey.
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:58 PM
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Below is an image of the GB next to a normal WB...to me there is a discernible difference. The GB appears consistent with my lone GB I have in my collection. My GB came as part of a lot I purchased from this same seller of the 52 189 GB PSA 1.5. This seller sells mainly modern, but offers vintage through consignment. It is possible that their consignor realized they were mistakenly including 52 grey back cards in their lots and started having them graded to offer as singles.
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Old 09-09-2017, 06:05 PM
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When you have the top 3-4 gray back guys already bidding on a card, it's safe to assume it's legit.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:55 PM
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He was specifically asking about 1952 Gray Backs, not all the other mechanical errors that PSA puts together. That is what your comment seemed to convey.
Fair enough. I was being a grumpy old man and deleted it.
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The Reiser in this lot was mislabeled and properly removed as it should have been. The others in this lot, imo, look a lot different than the Reiser and imo, far more believable.
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...plete-psa-set/

Until the day comes where I can actually hold one in hand, I guess I am going to continue to struggle with these.

Some that I have seen remove all doubt as they are clearly gray, both front and back, but others leave me wondering if an overzealous TPG made a mistake.

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24 hours in and the card is already up to $1900.

Anyone want to take side bets on what this card finishes out at? I predict $4500.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:18 PM
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24 hours in and the card is already up to $1900.

Anyone want to take side bets on what this card finishes out at? I predict $4500.
If it's as tough as I have read it is, I'd say it will get that for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-1...EAAOSwiOdZs~0M
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:46 PM
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If it's as tough as I have read it is, I'd say it will get that for sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-1...EAAOSwiOdZs~0M

And really that high price is what keeps me from bidding on this card. Because it just doesn't quite make sense that there are far fewer Reiser gray backs graded by PSA, given that he would've been printed in the same ratios as the other grayback players. And he was a fairly well known player, compared to the others in that series, which makes it doubly odd the grayback seemingly survives in fewer numbers than the others.

Personally I suspect there are more out there, and when a card like this fetches a high price, it tends to get people checking their cards. I would not be surprised at all if a couple more turn up in the months to come, and as a result, we'll see that population tick up a bit.
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The pop was 6 for a long time and now it's 9. 3 came up for sale just this year, and I only ever remember seeing one sale before that. Ever. With some pops now at 30, the outliers under 15 we can assume are Sps.
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The pop was 6 for a long time and now it's 9. 3 came up for sale just this year, and I only ever remember seeing one sale before that. Ever. With some pops now at 30, the outliers under 15 we can assume are Sps.
I still regret getting sniped on a gray back Ramazotti a year or so ago. He's almost as rare as the Reiser card.
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