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Old 08-13-2013, 08:14 PM
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Default 1914 CJ Mathewson Receives a Bath Courtesy of Legendary

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=24903

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...---SGC-40-VG-3

Or just a scan which completely misrepresents what the card actually looks like.

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Old 08-13-2013, 08:37 PM
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Old dog, same tricks?
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:42 PM
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Shocking!!! I can't believe someone would....oh, wait...yes I can.
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strange cuz the holder ID # is the same. Was the card removed from the holder? Or scanned differently?
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I thought the 1914 CJ fell apart if soaked, due to the thin card stock. Does anyone here have some insight about this?
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I thought the 1914 CJ fell apart if soaked, due to the thin card stock. Does anyone here have some insight about this?
He means a virtual bath via photoshop. You can make anything look brighter and cleaner with the touch of a button.
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The card is in the same holder. Probably only the scan difference.
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Nice try Jeff, but real magicians never reveal their secrets unless subpoenaed.

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Doug -- I'm sending this to your sentencing judge to show him that you're still defrauding people, even while facing federal fraud charges.
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Looks like a brighter scanner setting, mine is set a bit darker to help with SGC slabs.

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n172 Connie Mack photo conniemack50percent_zps30c71aad.jpg

The first scan is from Legendary March 2012. The second scan is from Probstein auction that ended last winter. I own this card and can tell you that in real life, the card looks like the Probstein scan. I was willing to bid on it in the probstein auction but not in the Legendary because in the Legendary I just wasn't sure what the card really looked like.
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I have no animosity towards anyone at all in this thread. I have a feeling that Legendary might do their scans normally at a higher resolution. So much so it makes the cards look different. I won the E221 Bishops card from them about a year or two ago, from the Drier collection. It looked bright and sharp with very few creases on it, from the scan on the screen. When I got it in hand it was quite different. It was darker and more creases showed. I still liked it and kept it....but before I got it I even told Mark Mac.rae, on the phone, I thought it looked almost Ex in condition. I felt kind of dumb when I got it and it was in fair (but still nice) condition. I think they need to change their settings on their scanners. I told Doug about it but still wanted the card. I am not saying they are doing anything bad, intentionally, but they do need to scan on different, more realistic settings. I like everyone over at Legendary, personally, and I hope everything gets worked out soon. best regards
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I have no animosity towards anyone at all in this thread. I have a feeling that Legendary might do their scans normally at a higher resolution. So much so it makes the cards look different. I won the E221 Bishops card from them about a year or two ago, from the Drier collection. It looked bright and sharp with very few creases on it, from the scan on the screen. When I got it in hand it was quite different. It was darker and more creases showed. I still liked it and kept it....but before I got it I even told Mark Mac.rae, on the phone, I thought it looked almost Ex in condition. I felt kind of dumb when I got it and it was in fair (but still nice) condition. I think they need to change their settings on their scanners. I told Doug about it but still wanted the card. I am not saying they are doing anything bad, intentionally, but they do need to scan on different, more realistic settings. I like everyone over at Legendary, personally, and I hope everything gets worked out soon. best regards
But Doug just said above he's never had a complaint about this issue in the 5 years Legendary has been in business. Doug -- probably best to either shut up or stop lying at this point -- assuming that's possible.
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http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=24903

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...---SGC-40-VG-3

Or just a scan which completely misrepresents what the card actually looks like.
Hal Lewis???? Is that you, Hal? Seriously Jeff, nice to see you back. Were it not for your perception that Legendary is committing fraud we might never hear from you. Thought you might post the other day on the Memory Lane thread given your interest in keeping the hobby clean but I guess you like their scans and, like so many here, they have always shipped the cards you have won.
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Hal Lewis???? Is that you, Hal? Seriously Jeff, nice to see you back. Were it not for your perception that Legendary is committing fraud we might never hear from you. Thought you might post the other day on the Memory Lane thread given your interest in keeping the hobby clean but I guess you like their scans and, like so many here, they have always shipped the cards you have won.
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It only takes a small amount of manipulation to make the REA scan look like the Legendary scan. Any child could do it.
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