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Old 06-18-2015, 04:17 PM
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Default Top 20 high end auctions Probstein123

Holy crap, these cards still have 5 days left... 1955 Topps Clemente rookie PSA 7 $5500, 1981 Topps Montana rookie PSA 10 $12k, 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 9 $3200, 1957 Topps Bart Starr PSA 8 $7300...Damn, I'm in the wrong business...
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:37 PM
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Wow. _***o(1225) sure got busy bidding almost immediately after S***2(351)'s initial bid and things went flying from there on ol' Bart!
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Big bidder on PWCC high end cards too.
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I don't think they'll end up going a whole lot higher than they're at now. Those cards are all worth what they're at though.
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I don't think they'll end up going a whole lot higher than they're at now. Those cards are all worth what they're at though.
nevermind...

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I don't think they'll end up going a whole lot higher than they're at now. Those cards are all worth what they're at though.
Certain HOF rookies are off the charts these days for whatever reason, and it's hard to understand because for the most part they are not difficult to find even in high grade. And it's an old discussion, but paying 12K for a Montana card that but for the flip is fungible with a $500 9? Well, to each his own.
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Wow. _***o(1225) sure got busy bidding almost immediately after S***2(351)'s initial bid and things went flying from there on ol' Bart!
Funny how he stopped short once his high bid was only a few dollars below the leader. Setting him up for later perhaps.
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Probstein can't let PWCC get away with all the obvious fraud on ebay -- he's stepping up his game.

By the way, in about 5 minutes this morning Peter sent me links of bidding activity to about 10 high end PWCC cards -- all were obviously being shilled with sometimes the top 7 bidders bidding on PWCC lots over 40% of the time (and sometimes up to 90%). Is it possibly in Brent's DNA to take a few minutes each day and block the very obvious crooks who are bidding in his auctions?
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Probstein can't let PWCC get away with all the obvious fraud on ebay -- he's stepping up his game.

By the way, in about 5 minutes this morning Peter sent me links of bidding activity to about 10 high end PWCC cards -- all were obviously being shilled with sometimes the top 7 bidders bidding on PWCC lots over 40% of the time (and sometimes up to 90%). Is it possibly in Brent's DNA to take a few minutes each day and block the very obvious crooks who are bidding in his auctions?
Or maybe he just has a loyal following.

Seriously, in the context of sets being offered, high bid percentages with the seller don't look suspicious. But when it's cards from all walks of life whose only common denominator is high grade and high dollar value, and it happens auction after auction after auction, well, you be the judge.
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Probstein can't let PWCC get away with all the obvious fraud on ebay -- he's stepping up his game.

By the way, in about 5 minutes this morning Peter sent me links of bidding activity to about 10 high end PWCC cards -- all were obviously being shilled with sometimes the top 7 bidders bidding on PWCC lots over 40% of the time (and sometimes up to 90%). Is it possibly in Brent's DNA to take a few minutes each day and block the very obvious crooks who are bidding in his auctions?
I have always assumed they work together because of the way the same exact card(s) that are shilled tend to go back and forth between them. Also the bidding history of some accounts that between the 2 are 90%+ of their bid activity.
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Jeff L. and Peter S. have made comments to this being illegal and fraudulant. If so, why in the world would Ebay not be held accountable as well as the seller? Is Ebay that huge?

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Jeff L. and Peter S. have made comments to this being illegal and fraudulant. If so, why in the world would Ebay not be held accountable as well as the seller? Is Ebay that huge?
Kevin PWCC ADMITTED to doing it during 2009-10, that is, allowing a consignor to place a hidden reserve. Clear violation of ebay rules. Also his invoices through ebay instructed buyers how to avoid California sales tax by paying by check or money order. Perhaps ebay was unaware? I don't know.
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