enough is enough

[nolemmings]

Not gonna happen. And as a proud American and son of a Veteran I very much understand what my father fought for, and as importantly, what he fought against. My late father completely understood and supported the importance of peaceful protest, including those raised against the flag. Don't get me wrong, he did not like such displays, but made it clear to me that they were a part of this Country's heritage and separated us from tyranny.

P.S. I won't even get into the misunderstanding many have as to why these kneelings are made and what is being protested. It is not the American military and those who serve or who have died. Apart from that and again, long live the First Amendment.

[cardsfan73]

I won't get political because this is a sports forum, not politics. I'll simply reply with nope!

[cardsfan73]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Not gonna happen. And as a proud American and son of a Veteran I very much understand what my father fought for, and as importantly, what he fought against. My late father completely understood and supported the importance of peaceful protest, including those raised against the flag. Don't get me wrong, he did not like such displays, but made it clear to me that they were a part of this Country's heritage and separated us from tyranny.

P.S. I won't even get into the misunderstanding many have as to why these kneelings are made and what is being protested. It is not the American military and those who serve or who have died. Apart from that and again, long live the First Amendment.

Thank you to your father for serving.

Enjoy watching the final round of the LPGA tour event from Tucson, AZ gentleman. Looking forward to less crowds at Buffalo Wild Wings

[glenv]

It's amazing how well the protests are working. Sunday there were lots of games, but there was only one on Monday, then none on Tuesday and Wednesday...

[Snapolit1]

Has nothing to do with the military. Nada. But that's perfectly clear. People want to turn it into something it's not. Have 3 friends who fought in Afghanistan and not a one of them gives a hoot about any of this.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Has nothing to do with the military. Nada. But that's perfectly clear. People want to turn it into something it's not. Have 3 friends who fought in Afghanistan and not a one of them gives a hoot about any of this.

The Star Spangled Banner has nothing to do with the military? Who knew?

Edited to add: The Star Spangled Banner is a military tune. It was written in a time of war, about war (the bombardment of Ft McHenry). The Star Spangled Banner is what is being protested. Blacks have labeled it as racist. ..

http://www.ebony.com/entertainment-c...#axzz4u4uQU1Tr

If it's not about the Star Spangled Banner, then why don't they just get out on the field at halftime and lock arms? Why not after the game? Why not some other venue?

[packs]

I haven't read a single statement from a protester that mentioned being anti-military. Every statement I've read has been about fighting institutionalized racism. The anthem is seen as being a reflection of American values, but those values aren't always in place in society. Take for example the African American men who served in World War II against fascism and genocide who then came home to segregated bathrooms. That is why they protest during the anthem.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The Star Spangled Banner has nothing to do with the military? Who knew?

Edited to add: The Star Spangled Banner is a military tune. It was written in a time of war, about war (the bombardment of Ft McHenry). The Star Spangled Banner is what is being protested. Blacks have labeled it as racist. ..

http://www.ebony.com/entertainment-c...#axzz4u4uQU1Tr

If it's not about the Star Spangled Banner, then why don't they just get out on the field at halftime and lock arms? Why not after the game? Why not some other venue?

People are protesting what they think is unfair racial treatment in America. Has zilch to with the military. A protest is about what the people protesting say its about. Not what other people want to turn it into.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Not gonna happen. And as a proud American and son of a Veteran I very much understand what my father fought for, and as importantly, what he fought against. My late father completely understood and supported the importance of peaceful protest, including those raised against the flag. Don't get me wrong, he did not like such displays, but made it clear to me that they were a part of this Country's heritage and separated us from tyranny.

P.S. I won't even get into the misunderstanding many have as to why these kneelings are made and what is being protested. It is not the American military and those who serve or who have died. Apart from that and again, long live the First Amendment.

Thank you to your father for serving. I don't think anybody disagrees with their (NFL) right to protest (even though most, including myself, doesn't like it). It's how they're doing it that bothers people. Nobody, and I mean nobody has the right to protest while at work, while they're on the clock, while they're being paid - without the approval of their employer.

If you think otherwise, then the next time you're in a courtroom and the bailiff comes in and says "all rise" you just remain seated. When the judge asks you why you didn't rise, tell him it's your First Amendment right to protest and see where that get you. Again, it's not their (NFL) protesting that bothers most, it's the venue in which they're doing it. If they really want to protest, let them go do it in their free time - not while they're being paid to work.