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Old 01-12-2015, 07:52 PM
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Default Rule of Thumb for (OC) and other qualifiers?

Hi,

I am curious to the groups thoughts on OC and other qualifiers. For example:
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The card on the left is a PSA 7 with a (OC) qualifier. The right is a PSA 6. I agree with the sentiment of buy the card not the holder (I like the PSA 6 more than the 7 personally), but I am curious as to what would be the no qualifier equivalent? I.e. typically a PSA X is generally has the same value as a PSA 7 (OC)?

Or is this the case where it just depends on the specific circumstances?

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Old 01-12-2015, 08:01 PM
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I think its very hard to make a specific rule for qualifiers because of the variance in severity of the qualifiers and the starting point of the grade (a qualified 5 might not have the same impact as a qualified 8).

But the rule of thumb Ive often heard is "two grades lower" for value equivalent. But thats a really broad rule.

And my overall opinion on qualifiers- I hate them. Qualifiers tell me what a card "would have graded" and never get around to telling me what a card "is actually graded". But thats just me.
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Rule of thumb I believe is to drop 2 grades. PSA 7 (oc) would be a PSA 5 etc..
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For the registry sets, it counts 2 grades below your listed grade. So the 6 is a 6 and the 7 would be a 5 if you put them in a graded registry on PSA's website. When people talk about their GPA for the set, that's how it is averaged. Prices seem to drop between 2-3 grades for any qualifier, from what I've seen.
So your 7(OC) may only sell around a 4.5 or so.

Now if the card is modern, OC can really kill the value. Just because there's so many of them made, why grade/buy one that has a major flaw?
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Thank you all for your thoughts! Much appreciated.
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My least favorite thing about PSA are the qualifiers. I totally agree with the other poster who referenced the severity of OC cards playing a big part. Some cards are borderline OC and still carry good value with the more severe OC cards being effected more from a value perspective.

I have more PSA cards in my collection than any of the other graders but I prefer SGC b/c they don't mess with qualifiers.

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I'd take the 6 all day long over the 7Q. They are virtually the same card w/ the T-B reversed. Q's bug the hell out of me and I avoid them if at all poss.
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