Question concerning 1970 Topps Super Proof

[deltaarnet]

Here is the card it was given a Authentic Grade by PSA Pop 4 none higher? If you look up the pop report for 1970 Topps Super you will see ALL Square corner Proofs only have a Authentic grade. Why??

[moeson]

Perhaps because hand cut from sheets ala 74 Deckle proofs.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by deltaarnet

Here is the card it was given a Authentic Grade by PSA Pop 4 none higher? If you look up the pop report for 1970 Topps Super you will see ALL Square corner Proofs only have a Authentic grade. Why??

As stated, it's a proof of the Killebrew card that was likely cut from a sheet. The '70 Topps Supers had rounded corners. All of the proofs should be graded as authentic.

[ALR-bishop]

I do not collect graded cards but do collect the 74 Deckles and do know PSA grades the proofs as Authentic. They also grade any of the 67 Maris as a Yankee proofs as authentic. I think most if not all of them are hand cut from a sheet as well. I have seen 74 Deckle proofs with numerical grades from SGC.

[deltaarnet]

Originally Posted by Mark70Z

As stated, it's a proof of the Killebrew card that was likely cut from a sheet. The '70 Topps Supers had rounded corners. All of the proofs should be graded as authentic.

But why? These are not the only cards cut from sheets and a lot others get grades. This card was not cut from a cereal box, Topps cut these cards.

[ALR-bishop]

Topps may or may not have cut them. I have several full uncut Topps proof sheets and know people in the hobby who are very good at cutting such sheets into individual cards. But the hand cutting may not be the key. Do an eBay search for Topps proofs and then narrow it to graded auctions and see if you find proof cards that PSA has graded numerically. I know you will find them with numerical grades from other grading companies

Another option is to take your question to PSA by posting your question on their Collector's Universe board

[JoeDfan]

I have the '71 Joe Torre, and I also wondered why they did that.
But not enough apparently to ask anyone. If you find out, I would love to know the answer.

[deltaarnet]

Update I found two 1971 Square corner proof graded 88 and 80 by SGC, but still no grades for the 1970 batch.

[rgpete]

Originally Posted by deltaarnet

Here is the card it was given a Authentic Grade by PSA Pop 4 none higher? If you look up the pop report for 1970 Topps Super you will see ALL Square corner Proofs only have a Authentic grade. Why??

Is your proof a Blank Back, I have the printed back.

[deltaarnet]

Mine is printed also

[ALR-bishop]

In my experience proof sheets are normally blank backed, or have only partially finished backs.

If a card has the regularly issued front and back, and is hand cut, it was most likely cut from a finished sheet. For example I have a set of the 74 Deckles on uncut sheets with blank backs. I have some square cut undeckled cards with finished backs and some with partially finished backs, and some with blank backs. I believe the ones with finished backs to have been cut from final sheets that had not been deckled. I do not think because a grading company calls it a proof, it is a proof. I think if they have regular backs they are more likely just unfinished cards.

On the other hand, I doubt if there is a hobby standard definition of a proof card, just as their is no universally accepted definition of a variation, so I guess any unfinished card can be considered a proof card

[ls7plus]

My proof '69 Topps Super Reggie Jackson rookie was also graded PSA authentic. It has square corners, while the regular issue's were rounded.

Happy collecting,

Larry

[MCoxon]

Restarting a thread originally on 70 Topps proofs and grading. I see most - but not all -- topps super proofs from 1969-1970 are graded "A". None in 1971.

I just bought a Mays 1969 Topps Super Proof, graded PSA 7. Only 2 total 1969 Topps proofs have a numerical grade (including a 69 Topps super proof Pete Rose PSA 4) as of today. I searched and found 1 proof from 1970 with a number grade (a 1970 square proof blank back, Killebrew PSA 7).

Mine is the only 1969 Topps super proof Mays with a number.

Were these 3 proofs given a numerical grade a grading mistake by PSA? Why this one graded and only 2 others? I understand that many/all proofs were considered sheet cut which is why PSA doesn't typically give a number grade. So, is there something different about this one?

Picture attached.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by MCoxon

Restarting a thread originally on 70 Topps proofs and grading. I see most - but not all -- topps super proofs from 1969-1970 are graded "A". None in 1971.

I just bought a Mays 1969 Topps Super Proof, graded PSA 7. Only 2 total 1969 Topps proofs have a numerical grade (including a 69 Topps super proof Pete Rose PSA 4) as of today. I searched and found 1 proof from 1970 with a number grade (a 1970 square proof blank back, Killebrew PSA 7).

Mine is the only 1969 Topps super proof Mays with a number.

Were these 3 proofs given a numerical grade a grading mistake by PSA? Why this one graded and only 2 others? I understand that many/all proofs were considered sheet cut which is why PSA doesn't typically give a number grade. So, is there something different about this one?

Picture attached.

More than likely the submitter was someone who does a lot of business with them. Could be a mistake also but I highly doubt it.

[David W]

Here is a blank back square corner, a regular back square corner, and the normal round corner Super.

The blank back is on thinner card stock.

[David W]

There were also 71 Supers like that. This is a 4 card sheet

[quitcrab]

1968 Topps Plak checklist all receive a "A" grade except one was graded a PSA 7 ... Not sure what makes that one card worthy of a number grade.

[MCoxon]

Originally Posted by quitcrab

1968 Topps Plak checklist all receive a "A" grade except one was graded a PSA 7 ... Not sure what makes that one card worthy of a number grade.

Thanks for that info, interesting. It's the randomness that I don't get. Not sure what makes this one worthy of a number grade either.

Oh well, it's a 1/1 (69 super proof Mays graded) or 1/2 (69 super proof Mays slabbed at all), and I like the card and its photo, so I'll take it.