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Old 12-08-2019, 07:36 AM
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Default Need some H&B bat identification help please

What year(s)? Value? Any significance? Any help appreciated?

Not viewable in the photo's - the word "YOUTHS" is stamped above the center brand. The bat measures 31.5 inches.
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Old 12-08-2019, 05:38 PM
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The Patent date for this style of bat comes back as being 1902..

https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=...6RS=PN/0716541

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Old 12-08-2019, 06:09 PM
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The Patent date for this style of bat comes back as being 1902..

https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=...6RS=PN/0716541

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Thanks Dave. Does that mean it's from 1902 or is that the earliest it could be?Any other info anyone?
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:03 PM
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If 1902 is the thinking, it can not be as Hillerich and Bradsby did not come into being until around 1921. The dash dot dash also would make you think it is from around the 1900's era....perhaps this was a commemorative bat of some kind or a bat which was just using the different stampings for practice or something.....as the dating just does not line up at all....would be interested in other thoughts here!

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Old 12-08-2019, 07:06 PM
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Check that....I mis-spoke....circa 1916 or so....with the dash dot dash...for Bradsby CO.

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Old 12-08-2019, 07:10 PM
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Here is what is possibly the earliest Hillerich stamping (& SON) ...circa 1897...the factory was located at this address until 1901 according to the historian at Louisville Slugger...
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:24 AM
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The earliest one I have seen is the copyright bat:
http://keymancollectibles.com/bats/j...opyrighted.htm
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:44 AM
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Yes...I agree! I remember this one now...attic find I think.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:02 PM
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Based on following up the links that were shared it appears the bat is from between 1916 (when Bradsby joins the Co) and 1921 (when the center brand is changed from -.- to Made in USA). Any other information - seems like possibly a little league store model? Would the "fancy" patent number stamped in the barrel be consistent with a standard store model bat of that time period? Assuming little league store model from that era - value?
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:52 PM
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That dating sounds pretty logical to me.

I think I have one with that type of script (but I don't think the words are exactly the same), and I paid like $75 for mine.

But I am not an expert in bat prices; other than I often pay too much, according to the home accounting office.
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:54 PM
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Also, that is a beautiful bat.

I would be interested if you are looking to sell, but in that case, you should get someone else's opinion on value.
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:04 PM
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Also, that is a beautiful bat.

I would be interested if you are looking to sell, but in that case, you should get someone else's opinion on value.
I will be looking to sell it. Once I can get a bit more info - you are first in line.
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