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Old 07-13-2019, 11:28 PM
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Default 1962 Post Maris. I think I found a new variation!

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Old 07-13-2019, 11:31 PM
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I always noticed that some of the 1962 Roger Maris
Post box-cut cards had color variations. I never truly
considered these variations because I chalked it up
to some having varying color coming off the printing
presses but I had a feeling there was something
funky going on.

So I just realized...

Some examples positively have areas that are clearly
airbrushed. Also some exampled have the "g" in Roger
cut off on the bottom, but this is likely just where
the blue landed on the paper...still interesting though.

The airbrushing is DEFINITELY a variation. I believe there
may be other variations. Has this ever been discovered
or discussed by anyone else?
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Looks like a recurring print defect. I'm not sure I would call it airbrushing, as it doesn't seem to be covering up anything useful.
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Someone way smarter than me will hopefully chime in. I believe the differences in them are because they came on different brands/sizes of cereal. I think I have 3 or 4 different Eddie Mathews versions.
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The color tints are normally caused from being on different boxes of Jell-O. Not sure the Post boxes had the same color tint issues. This doesn't seem to be that though. He's talking about the stripe and circle print defects that seem to be recurring, and relatively common.
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Old 07-14-2019, 08:54 AM
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Default Maris "variations"

I did not study this in depth, but pretty certain that what is being noticed is caused by Maris cards coming from different cereal box panels. Maris was like on 5 different panels on various cereal in 1962 (plus the Life magazine card). As such one can find all these variations, although some are tougher than other depending on each cereal's particular sales. As one might assume, this concept is applicable to all players though-out the set as well as really every Post Cereal issue. In fact that is what Post Cereal Master Set collectors attempt in putting there sets together -- one card of each player from every different cereal panel the player appeared on (plus in the case of the 1962s, the Cash, Adcock, and Cepeda variations occurring on the same cereal box panels where the company attempted to correct an error during the promotion). One can tell these variations thru not only color, but picture cropping differences, packaging adhesive on the back, and/or occasionally differences in the narrative portion of the card. Dan Mabey has produced books which are still available on the various Post Cereal Baseball promotions with a good level of detail in each about this situation. The books are an invaluable tool for anyone attempting to put together a master set. (Good luck with the 62 set as that one has over 500 cards in it!)
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Airbrushed:





Not Airbrushed:




Note: the airbrushed cards all have a partial "g" in Roger also.
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I had an inquiry into how to get a hold of Dan as they were interested in his books. So for anyone else interested, his email is: inrock@homesc.com
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Airbrushed:





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Note: the airbrushed cards all have a partial "g" in Roger also.
I see the things you are calling airbrushed on every card you posted. It just sticks out way more on some because of the tint/color of the different cropping variations.
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Seems that the "g" spot (sorry) is the easiest spotted variation marker. There's no nuance to it, the g is cut off or full.
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I am using "airbrushed" as a hypernym, possibly incorrectly I admit.

Nonetheless, I do not believe the added color on the variation
happened by accident. It clearly looks artificial.
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I am using "airbrushed" as a hypernym, possibly incorrectly I admit.

Nonetheless, I do not believe the added color on the variation
happened by accident. It clearly looks artificial.
I believe airbrushed is the proper term or at least the one most people use. It's a cool variation for the error/player collectors.
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There's also a third spot on the right border across from Roger's schnozz. Airbrushed to me implies an intentional change to hide something or improve the look of something. There is nothing in the other variation that needs to be hidden, so I presume it's just an unintentional printing error.
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There's also a third spot on the right border across from Roger's schnozz. Airbrushed to me implies an intentional change to hide something or improve the look of something. There is nothing in the other variation that needs to be hidden, so I presume it's just an unintentional printing error.
The spots look like a print flaw, but the stripe at the upper right is there in both blue and red. And is almost certainly intentional.

That made me look more closely at the spots, which at first looked like fisheyes, and those are also in both blue and red.

It's a puzzler why they would do the stripe, and the spots make no sense, unless something spilled on the original art at some point.
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