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In the mind of the public.
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As I understand it there was no real evidence against Clemens other than the word of his trainer. And he had some serious credibility issues. Unless there is more to the story I haven't heard I don't think that should be enough to keep him out of the HOF.
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Andy Pettitte said Clemens told him the he took steroids. No one ever accused Pettitte of having credibility issues, the fact that Andy admitted his own use just gives him more credibility. Obviously hearsay not admissible in court but enough to convict in court of public opinion.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/02/s...ury-trial.html
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It did convince me though. Clemens and Pettitte were best friends, Pettitte had absolutely no reason to lie. |
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As I recall, even on direct his memory wasn't so clear, and his testimony did not hold up well on cross.
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Isn't guilt by association / speculation the same cloud that hangs over Barry Bonds and David Ortiz? What makes Brady different to you? Last edited by packs; 02-05-2019 at 07:19 AM. |
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/7...emens-hgh-talk
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Are you seriously claiming there is a degree of suspicion about Brady using comparable to Bonds and Ortiz? There was also lots of circumstantial evidence about Bonds and Ortiz, and in the case of Bonds a lot more than circumstantial (his GF for one). is there any at all about Brady?
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