N332 S.F. Hess Tom Sayers

[Exhibitman]

I have a Charley Mitchell with the ad cut off; that's it.

Sounds like Brent has it nailed in terms of images.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I have a Charley Mitchell with the ad cut off; that's it.

Sounds like Brent has it nailed in terms of images.

Charley Mitchell is still needed! Unless he is the card listed as "Young Mitchell"

Thank you to Brent for providing 24 missing images, and letting us use them in the gallery that should be updated in the near future.


Looking for images of:
Barney Aaron
Tom Allen
Patsey Cardiff (named spelled correctly)
Johnny Clark
Joe Coburn
Professor Donaldson
Jack Files
Austin Gibbons
Sparrow Golden
Billy Madden
Joe McAuliffe
Paddy Ryan
Steve Taylor
Joe Wormald
Fritz Wright


I am personally doubtful that some of these subjects actually exist; primarily the ones with names that I cannot connect to an actual person alive at that time. There are probably other subjects waiting to be discovered whose names are not on the list of claimed cards. Some of those with names like a known famous fighter with a card I am also not confident are real cards.

We have photos gathered of 2 anonymous subjects, one of whom is Frank Slavin. Anonymous subjects would be useful to see as well if anyone has any.

Sorry for hijacking OP

[Mark Webster]

Hi all,

Here’s images of Barney Aaron and Patsey Cardiff. Cards I have in my collection. Sorry for the poor photo’s. These are so difficult to find especially over here in England!

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[Mark Webster]

Hi all again,

Checking through my raw cards. Here’s a Patsey Fallon which is a different image to the one on the moviecard database.

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[G1911]

Thank you Mark! 3 more new images.

Upon closer review of the scans I am gathering I believe the "Patsy Fallon" in the gallery is actually the Jack Fallon card, which has no name displayed identifying the subject, and will need to be updated.

I'd really love to see, especially, Sparrow Golden & Jack Files. I cannot yet identify men of these names at the time of the cards. These 2 seem to come from Burdick, but the Met has no image for these cards listed. These 2 are on my suspect list right now.

Also looking for the non-boxers if folks are also collecting the athletes, actors and handful of celebrities. I think we can get closer to 150 total subjects than the ~130 the checklists hover around. Thank you everyone who has shared publicly or privately their collections of these with me the last few days for checklisting and research.

It is really a shame that this set has not aged so well; when one appears with a relatively unfaded image they are really gorgeous photographs. I'm really appreciating the unique photos used in this set that we don't see on other cards.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by G1911

Thank you Mark! 3 more new images.

Upon closer review of the scans I am gathering I believe the "Patsy Fallon" in the gallery is actually the Jack Fallon card, which has no name displayed identifying the subject, and will need to be updated.

I'd really love to see, especially, Sparrow Golden & Jack Files. I cannot yet identify men of these names at the time of the cards. These 2 seem to come from Burdick, but the Met has no image for these cards listed. These 2 are on my suspect list right now.

Also looking for the non-boxers if folks are also collecting the athletes, actors and handful of celebrities. I think we can get closer to 150 total subjects than the ~130 the checklists hover around. Thank you everyone who has shared publicly or privately their collections of these with me the last few days for checklisting and research.

It is really a shame that this set has not aged so well; when one appears with a relatively unfaded image they are really gorgeous photographs. I'm really appreciating the unique photos used in this set that we don't see on other cards.

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[G1911]

Originally Posted by Pat R

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Thank you Pat! That makes Golden much more likely to be an actual card than I had thought after some searches.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by G1911

Charley Mitchell is still needed! Unless he is the card listed as "Young Mitchell"

[G1911]

With Charlie crossed off, here's my updated list of cards I am looking for pictures of, including the non-boxers. I think our checklist is much more complete in the boxing subset and I am sure there are multiple subjects missing that I don't have a name for yet:



Tom Allen (Boxer)
Lawrence Barrett (Actor)
Prof. Bauer
Kyle Bellew (Actor)
Edwin Bibby
Arthur Chambers
Jimmy Clark or Johnny Clark
Joe Coburn (Boxer)
Sam Day
Donald Dinnie
Prof. Donaldson (Boxer)
H.W. Dufur
R. Edwards
Austin Gibbons (Boxer)
Sparrow Golden (Boxer)
Ed. Hanlan
Abe Hicken
George Lee
Geo. Littlewood
Billy Madden
Joe McAuliffe
Sebastian Miller
Wm. Muldoon
Jim Mutrie
Duncan C. Ross
Wallace Ross
Paddy Ryan (Boxer)
E.H. Sothern
Steve Taylor
Robt. Vint
Lester Wallock
Josh Ward
Fred Weir
Clarence Whistler
Joe Wormald (Boxer)
Fritz Wright

[G1911]

Thanks to Brent for Chambers and Billy for Sam Day. 2 more crossed off.

These subjects I have seen listed somewhere but we have not seen a picture of:

Tom Allen (Boxer)
Lawrence Barrett (Actor)
Edwin Bibby (Wrestler)
Patsey Carney (?) - Burdick Collection
Johnney Clark (Boxer) - Burdick Collection
Joe Coburn (Boxer)
Donald Dinnie (Strong Man)
Prof. Donaldson (Boxer)
H.W. Dufur (Wrestler) - Burdick Collection
R. Edwards (?)
Austin Gibbons (Boxer)
Sparrow Golden (Boxer) - Burdick Collection
Ed. Hanlan (Oarsman) - SGC POP Report
Jim Kill (?) - PSA POP Report
George Lee (Track & Field) - Burdick Collection
Geo. Littlewood (Pedestrian)
Billy Madden (Boxer)
Sebastian Miller (Strong Man)
Jerry Murphy (Boxer) - SGC POP Report
Jimmy Murray (Boxer) - SGC POP Report
Wallace Ross (Oarsman)
Paddy Ryan (Boxer) - Burdick Collection & PSA POP Report
E.H. Sothern (Actor)
Steve Taylor (Boxer) - Burdick Collection
Robt. Vint (Athlete) - Burdick Collection
Josh Ward (Fighter)
Fred Weir (Athlete)
Clarence Whistler (Wrestler)
Joe Wormald (Boxer) - Burdick Collection
Fritz Wright (Boxer)

[G1911]

I used Burdick, the PSA report, scanned SGC for additional cards (their "N332" section is a total disaster and they catalog Hess cards together in it. SGC's lists can be such a pain in the rear...), The non-sport list, Adam’s list in the 2016-17 edition of his book, and collector lists that are public as well as those kind enough to share their checklists or partial lists privately. Cards that have a graded copy or appear in the Burdick collection but we have not seen are annotated with the source. Thank you to the many individuals who have shared their lists, knowledge, referrals, and images.


I have tried to better denote the type of subject pictured in this list, as many of them were obscure even at the time and do not have other cards. I would greatly appreciate any feedback, corrections, fixes, additions, or observations that I've messed something up.


The cards that are not yet confirmed by a public photograph are listed in red. Some listed cards may not exist; particularly those with names similar to another subject. Cards in red we would greatly appreciate a picture of. Cards confirmed with the solid proof of a picture are shown in the Gallery (http://www.moviecard.com/gallery/showtime2.html; N332 is at: http://www.moviecard.com/gallery/oth...cco//n332.html).


I have denoted the Candiff/Cardiff reports and the 2 Jackson's as variations rather than unique cards. As the 2 Jacksons are the same picture, it seems to me to meet the criteria of a true variation rather than being a unique card. I don't think we've seen both Cardiff's yet; if the picture is different I think it a different card, if its a caption error that was corrected it is a true variation. There are also some photo defects that were likely to have been recurring I have encountered that I am not including here, following hobby tradition rather than my own predilections.


Jim Mutrie that appears in many checklists is a check listing error. Burdick catalogued the Hess cards by subject matter. Thus a baseball player in the design can only be an N338.


The unique or nearly unique cards that complicate check listing and make this incomplete also indicate the likelihood that some cards that were made may no longer exist at all. I find the absence of Jake Kilrain thus far particularly noteworthy, at a glance.


1 Barney Aaron - Boxer

2 Joe Acton - Wrestler

3 Tom Allen - Boxer

4 Jack Ashton - Boxer

5 Florry Barnett - Boxer

6 Lawrence Barrett - Actor

7 Maurice Barrymore - Actor

8 Prof. Bauer - Wrestler

9 William Beach - Oarsman

10 Kyrle Bellew - Actor (Burdick Collection)

11 Woole Bendhoff - Boxer

12 Edwin Bibby - Wrestler

13 Dion Boucicault - Actor

14 Bob Breetle - Boxer

15 Jack Burke - Boxer

16A Patsey Candiff (spelled wrong) - Boxer

16B Patsey Cardiff - Boxer

17 Jack Carkeek - Wrestler

18 Jem Carney - Boxer

19 Patsey Carney - ? (Burdick Collection)

20 Jimmy Carroll - Boxer

21 George Cartwright - Athlete

22 Arthur Chambers - Boxer

23 Johnny or Johnney or Jimmy Clark - Boxer (Burdick collection has “Johnney Clark)

24 Mike Cleary - Boxer

25 Joe Coburn - Boxer (Burdick Collection)

26 Buffalo Bill, Hon.Wm.F. Cody - Showman

27 Sam Collyer - Boxer

28 Mike Conley - Boxer

29 Chas E. Courtney - Athlete

30 Thomas Courtney - ? (Only in Warshaw’s book)

31 Wm. Cummings - Athlete

32 Mike Cushing - Boxer

33 Billy Dacy - Boxer

34 Capt. Daly - Wrestler

35 Tommy Danforth - Boxer

36 Sam Day - Athlete

37 Jack Dempsey - Boxer

38 Donald Dinnie- Strong Man

39 Mike Donahue - Wrestler

40 Prof. Donaldson - Boxer

41 Dan Donnelly - Boxer

42 Mike Donovan - Boxer

43 H.W. Dufur - Wrestler (Burdick Collection)

44 Thos. A. Edison - Inventor

45 Billy Edwards - Boxer

46 R. Edwards - ?

47 Joe Ellinhsworth - Boxer

48 Jack Fallon - Boxer

49 Patsy Fallon - Boxer

50 Bob Farrell - Boxer

51 Jim Fell - Boxer

52 Jack Files (no name) - Boxer

53 Pat Fitzgerald- Athlete

54 Jack Fogarty - Boxer

55 Malcolm W. Ford - Actor

56 Geo. Fulljames- Boxer

57 Austin Gibbons- Boxer

58 Harry Gilmore - Boxer

59 Geo Godfrey - Boxer

60 Sparrow Golden- Boxer (Burdick Collection)

61 Joe Goss - Boxer

62 Alf Greenfield - Boxer

63 Gus Guerrero - Pedestrian

64 Albert Hamm - Oarsman

65 Ed. Hanlan - Oarsman (SGC POP Report)

66 Chas. Harriman - Track & Field

67 Dooney Harris - Boxer

68 Frank Hart - Pedestrian

69 Jack Haylin - Boxer

70 John C. Heenan - Boxer

71 Dan Hesty - Athlete

72 Abe Hicken - Boxer (Incorrectly checklisted as Micken in some places)

73 Dick Hollywood- Boxer

74 John Hughes - Wrestler

75 Jack Hyams - Fighter

76A Peter Jackson (one name) - Boxer

76B Peter Jackson (two names) - Boxer

77 Wm. Johnston - Athlete

78 Jimmy Kelly - Boxer

79 Patsey Kerrigan - Boxer

80 Jim Kill - ? (Source: PSA)

81 Pat Killen - Boxer

82 Tom King - Boxer

83 Nat Langham - Boxer

84 George Lee - Track & Field (Burdick Collection)

85 Tom Lees - Boxer

86 Evan Lewis - Wrestler

87 Geo. Littlewood - Pedestrian

88 Jem Mace - Boxer

89 Billy Madden - Boxer

90 Richard Mansfield - Actor

91 Jack McAuliffe - Fighter

92 Joe McAuliffe - Boxer

93 Dominick McCaffrey - Boxer

94 Prof. McClellan - Boxer

95 Billy McLean - Boxer

96 Joe McPherson - Track & Field

97 Sebastian Miller - Strong Man

98 Charlie Mitchell - Boxer

99 Young Mitchell - Boxer

100 Jack Morrissey- Boxer

101 Pete Mulby - Boxer (sometimes listed as Hulby)

102 Wm. Muldoon - Wrestler

103 Frank Murphy - Boxer

104 Jerry Murphy - Boxer (SGC POP Report)

105 Johnnie/Johnny Murphy - Boxer

106 Jimmy Murray - Boxer (SGC POP Report)

107 Billy Myers - Boxer

108 Lon Myers - Athlete

109 Danny Needham - Boxer

110 Geo. Noremac - Athlete

111 Charlie Norton- Boxer

112 Wm. O'Connor - Oarsman

113 Dan O'Leary - ?

114 Tom Paddock - Boxer

115 Joe Pendergrast - Boxer

116 Fred Plaisted - Oarsman

117 Ted Pritchard - Boxer

118 Johnny Reagan - Boxer

119 Geo. Rooke - Boxer

120 Duncan C. Ross- Swordsman

121 Wallace Ross - Oarsman

122 Charley Rowell- Athlete

123 Paddy Ryan - Boxer (PSA graded card + Burdick Collection)

124 Salvini - Actor

125 Black Sam - Wrestler

126 Tom Sayers - Boxer

127 John L. Scholes - Boxer

128 Wm. Sheriff - Boxer

129 Frank Slavin(no name)- Boxer

130 Jem Smith - Boxer

131 E.H. Sothern - Actor

132 John L. Sullivan - Boxer

133 Yankee Sullivan - Boxer

134 Steve Taylor - Boxer (Burdick Collection)

135 Mervine Thompson - Boxer

136 Bob Tunnuell - Boxer

137 Harry Vaughn - Athlete

138 Robt. Vint - Athlete (Burdick Collection)

139 Jem Ward - Boxer

140 Josh Ward - Fighter

141 Tommy Warren - Boxer

142 Fred Weir - Athlete

143 Ike Weir - Boxer

144 Clarence Whistler - Wrestler

145 Frank White - Boxer

146 Lester Wollack - Actor

147 Joe Wormald - Boxer (Burdick Collection)

148 Fritz Wright - Boxer