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Giving up playing the field is a really good idea.
The average is low, but he's leading the league in home runs. I'd prefer a high average and home runs, but still, home runs cover a lot of sins. It's amazing that Trout is going to go down as a disappointment. If reflects just how much promise he had that a guy who was already well-qualified for the hall of fame before he turned 30 is still a "what might have been" story. Some random facts for Trout-appreciation-purposes: His career OPS+ (on base percentage plus slugging percentage, adjusted for the park he plays in and normalized so 100 is average) is 173. It's the best among active players. Hank Aaron's was 155 (and 156 through the same age as Trout; Aaron was amazingly consistent). Mike Schmidt's career OPS+ was 148. His WAR is about 86. That's 50th all-time. Eyeballing the list, the only center fielders ahead of him are Mays, Cobb, Speaker, and Mantle. Before injuries struck he was averaging 9 WAR per season. Age would take some of that naturally, but sans injury (and COVID) he was only about four seasons from overtaking Mantle. Even with all of his injuries he was still on pace for a 6.5 WAR season this year (until he knee gave out). He is very battered, but he's still all-star quality when he's healthy. |
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It's how it is today with all your superstars "du jour". Tell me again how much bigger, stronger, faster they are. Whoopee effing do. They all break down.
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It certainly seems that way. Is there too much emphasis on strength and not enough on flexibility? Is it just that in the past players tended to play through injuries whereas now a hangnail sends them to the DL? Something else?
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It makes me appreciate even more what Hank Aaron achieved. Even though he's carved into the Mount Rushmore of baseball, I think he's probably underrated. Along the same lines, I suspect that the achievements of the lithe Ichiro (with his custom-made flexibility machines) will look even more impressive in hindsight. I was reading somewhere that the guy throws in the upper 80s right now, as a 50 year old.
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I know it may be blasphemy on this forum, but between Ichiro and Pete Rose, I'd take Ichiro all day long. To me, he's the GOAT of pure hitting.
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They are bigger, faster, stronger, better physical specimens. And yet their playing time is poor. Pitchers especially, who are now babied extensively with pitch counts and very low inning totals, are still mostly unable to piece together full careers anymore. The current approach does not seem to work in the long run, but it does work for the short term analytics that everyone is using, playing too, and getting paid on.
A player is incentivized to perform extremely well early on, at the absolute best all-out they can, until their initial contract is up and they get the lifetime mega contract and then it doesn't matter what they do. Teams are revolving around the analytics that are based on current short samples, how much WAR are they producing right now? This year? Last year? They are, for the most part, not looking at the future, even as they hand out hundreds of millions for the extended contracts, they are paying for past performance for young guys and paying them for that until they are old. In the past, players on single-year-at-a-time contracts and a reserve clause maximized income by playing well for a long time. A team generally paid for the next season, based on past performance but a year at a time. To get that contract again, a player still needed to perform that next year. There is no reason not to go all out everything while young and endure the injuries and problems that the current approach of 100% all out every single pitch and play seems to be creating. |
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Well he was AWFUL for the last 9 seasons so not sure how much of a ringing endorsement his longevity is.
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MY son and I would love to see a healthy Trout for 1 whole year. Hopefully soon and in a Phillies uniform
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