Fake Babe Ruth Card and Autograph?

[SyrNy1960]

Card looks fake and the auto looks stamped. Am I correct? Anytime I read a description of "Estate Sale Find" and "Sold As Is" makes me hesitate.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296235367330

Thanks!

[Bpm0014]

100% no good autograph

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

100% no good autograph

Thank you!

[ahmanfan]

Cool piece for a display but that’s about it. Nothing legit about it.


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[JimStinson]

I have a theory about older signed cards. It is not an absolute but I find it to be true more often than not especially as it relates to the high dollar names, Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, etc. It was rare for collectors of those days to collect signed cards. It is a relatively new phenomenon. Even as late as the 1950's it was not in full swing. I've been buying autograph collections for 40 years and can count on one hand the number of OLD autographed card collections I've bought personally and know of several that have hit the market. The ONE THING they all seem to have in common is the cards are almost always in GREAT CONDITION. Except for the occasional cards pasted into scrapbooks with back damage they look great. Imagine the excitement of the rare 1920's-1940's card collectors who were lucky enough to get their cards signed. They justifiably treated them like diamonds. Fast forward to today's market it is just TOO easy for an unscrupulous seller to buy an "Off" condition card cheap and by adding a simple signature turn a $50.00 card into a $50,000 card. That same person would not take a card in GREAT shape and chance turning it into worthless cardboard. Keeping that in mind it is smart to not only look at the autograph but judge the condition of the card itself in determining authenticity.
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[HOFAUTOS]

These are all over the internet

[JimStinson]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

These are all over the internet

The autograph appears exactly the same as the one at the top of the thread. When superimposed. Seriously doubt the 2nd card itself is the real deal either.
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[HOFAUTOS]

They’re just counterfeits that people are aging to fool buyers

Another common one they do it to is 1961 Mantles

Someone posted one here a few months ago and I pointed it out

Lots of these on Etsy

[Bpm0014]

Nor would Ruth use the 2nd version of the “e” like that in Sincerely…. Typically (the 3 of them as a group in a row) the “ere” almost always take on the same general shape as each other.

[SyrNy1960]

I contacted the seller, sent him multiple pictures of the same card to show him the card is a reprint/stamped signature. Seller ignores me. I notify ebay and provide them the link to etsy to show them just how many identical cards there are, and ebay does nothing. Seller ends auction, relist with low price, no reserve, and the bids he received look like shill bids (just my opinion). I notify ebay again, and again they do nothing. This one is a no brainer.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29624932532...4AAOSwcf9l0~6E

Thanks for your comments and help on this one guys!

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

There are a ton of fake "signed" Gretzky RCs flooding Canada lately. All exactly the same, and all signed in a spot and at an angle that Wayne himself has never employed. It's quite annoying.

[SyrNy1960]

eBay finally came through and ended the auction. Bid was over $500 with two days left.