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I think Fred’s Autoless description is priceless which is why I saved it. And even though he says it is the “most rarest card” if you ever read his description of Blackless C sheet cards when he sold those you would have thought them more valuable than a Russian Faberge egg
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One more rambling thought. Fred says they are not proof cards even though blank backed because they are not a proof of the issued cards. Rather he views them as a test design card that was replaced by a different design
Another example would be the Topps 1984 blank backed Head in the Box or Encased set of 66 cards, which differ from the issued cards in that the insert face is fully contained in the inset box rather than extending beyond it as with the issued cards. Fred would say they are not proof cards but rejected test design cards. To me that is semantics. I think they are proofs for an unissued design. But folks can call them whatever they want |
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I call nonsense and can’t see a definition that covers these as a test issue and not a proof with blank backs. This is likely back door scrap that was rolled out the back as it did not finish the production process. If it did not complete the printing process or was tossed as scrap, there is no presentable proof that his was purposely done action to show design production options.
The only either mistake or even perhaps a design thought that slipped past editing is the George Foster in action with or without a signature. In my mind this is scrap or proof, without it in hand to examine the cut I am unsure.
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I have the Jackson. There are other blank back autoless cards with black borders. You could be right about scrap or they could be like the 84 Encased. I think they could be scrap in a sense too, an early rejected design. I have a “set” of those on an uncut sheet. But who knows. I like having the Jackson, whatever it is… or isn’t
Fred, who wrote the description above is eccentric but not a fraud. He sold a lot of legitimate 82 Blackless, 84 Encased and 85 Minis on eBay in years past. He thought very highly of his cards and priced them accordingly. But his descriptions always give me a chuckle. I could picture him at a carnival attraction Last edited by ALR-bishop; 01-20-2023 at 03:11 PM. |
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Technically the 85 Minis (which are my favorite modern issue) are seemingly a combo of proofs and scrap as they were a sample of something not meant for production and swiped from the dumpster and hand cut. I feel like the encased have to be a similar story, likely an early run that was dumped after failing initial approval. I have bought so many fun oddities that all seem to arrive from a 40 mile circle of Duryea, PA. I do give him copywriter credits on creating the term has “design test issue variation” as opposed to a sample proof. Maybe it’s that I personally love the scrap title and honestly think it implies a far rarer card and want it to get the respect it deserves for its rarity and incredible luck to survive the trash pile and endure.
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"...the ULTRA RAREST, if not the MOST RAREST, of ALL baseball cards ever..."
Thanks for posting Al. I love the description and use of CAPS to scream the rarity! Personally, I don't collect the "Backless" cards, but I do like the "Blueless" and "Blacklessing" versions. I would love to find the first written description of the Blackless cards. Miked, that is great that it went to a Murph collector. Blueless and Blackless Goose |
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Ben---from Fred to you. More than anyone needs to know about Blackless, Blueless, Blacklessing and Autoless
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Another PSA Mistake....they remove the pic and remove from Blackless Pop report🙏🏻
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