Most overrated baseball stats????

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BearBailey

Other. Strikeouts. Pitchers strikeouts mean nothing, outs regardless of how they are gotten are important. I'd take a groundout pitcher over a fly ball pitcher or strike out pitcher any day. 1 pitch 1 out is better than 3 pitches for an out.

Disagree. Nobody moves up on a strikeout, runners advance all the time on groundouts and of course can score on a sac fly. The flip side I guess is that strikeouts don't result in double plays but I would bet that runners advancing outweighs that. There is a reason the great strikeout pitchers are almost always great pitchers.

[KCRfan1]

I agree Pete. Give me a great arm any day on the mound.

That said, great pitching will always put a team in a position to win a game. Pitching is what controls the game.

Great pitching can win on any team, however bad pitching will never win regardless of the team the pitcher is on.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Disagree. Nobody moves up on a strikeout, runners advance all the time on groundouts and of course can score on a sac fly. The flip side I guess is that strikeouts don't result in double plays but I would bet that runners advancing outweighs that. There is a reason the great strikeout pitchers are almost always great pitchers.

this times a million!

a K is the best result a pitcher can generate in and of himself, any other out is contingent on BABIP and the quality of his defense.