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Old 12-26-2017, 07:57 AM
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Default Time to get rid of meaningless PAT - no time left

The NFL being so concerned about player injuries was the reason why most kickoffs now go through the end zone.

However, why if there is no time on the clock and a team is up by more than 2 points do they require everyone to go back on the field and kick a PAT. Teams are starting to take a knee on that play now as well.

Just treat it like an overtime Touchdown. Zero reason to risk injury and shorten the length the game, plus all the logistics of having to get everyone off and back on the field etc.

This has happened a few times this year including yesterdays Eagles/Raiders game.

I know it does not occur that much, but it does occur and a simple rule change.

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Old 12-26-2017, 09:45 AM
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I would rather the NFL outlaw the opposing team calling a timeout just before an important field goal. I HATE that. Once the field goal unit is in formation and ready for the kick the opposing team should not be able to call timeout. Just my two cents.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:55 AM
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I would rather the NFL outlaw the opposing team calling a timeout just before an important field goal. I HATE that. Once the field goal unit is in formation and ready for the kick the opposing team should not be able to call timeout. Just my two cents.
right but how you combat that is the kicker takes a practice kick. Any kicker will tell you that if they get a practice kick, they will be more accurate in the long run on the kick that counts.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:25 PM
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It likely has more to do with Gambling and the ramifications with the Point Spread then anything having to do with the actual game.

I think Points or a point differential, could also be used a some sort of a tiebreaker down the line, but the likelihood of that ever coming into play is almost zero.

I agree, they should just let them walk off the field, if the extra point has nothing to do with the outcome of the game................gamblers be damned.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:35 PM
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It likely has more to do with Gambling and the ramifications with the Point Spread then anything having to do with the actual game.

I think Points or a point differential, could also be used a some sort of a tiebreaker down the line, but the likelihood of that ever coming into play is almost zero.

I agree, they should just let them walk off the field, if the extra point has nothing to do with the outcome of the game................gamblers be damned.
They are also taking a knee on them now anyway. So why take the field. You can hit a 3 run homer down 1 bottom of the 9th and just make it a single in baseball..who would of thought baseball has rules to make the game faster versus football
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I would rather the NFL outlaw the opposing team calling a timeout just before an important field goal. I HATE that. Once the field goal unit is in formation and ready for the kick the opposing team should not be able to call timeout. Just my two cents.
Yea, that and the rule where you lose control of the ball while crossing the goal line and fumble OB for a touch back need to change. Give the ball back to the offense at the 1, or even the 5, instead of rewarding the defense for a fumble they didn't recover.
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:54 PM
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Yea, that and the rule where you lose control of the ball while crossing the goal line and fumble OB for a touch back need to change. Give the ball back to the offense at the 1, or even the 5, instead of rewarding the defense for a fumble they didn't recover.
well its about punishing the offense more than rewarding the defense. There would be counter arguments there that i think would be stronger that counters to my fact pattern.
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I know it does not occur that much, but it does occur and a simple rule change.
You can't have first half rules and second half rules. The rules have to be the same throughout the game.

In other words, let's say the same scenario happened before half time. Do you not allow a team to kick the PAT just because they scored a TD with no time left on the clock? Of course you do.

And that's the same reason you let them kick the PAT even if there's no time in regulation play - whether the extra point is meaningless or not.
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well its about punishing the offense more than rewarding the defense. There would be counter arguments there that i think would be stronger that counters to my fact pattern.
I believe the rule was written to prevent players from intentionally trying to fumble the ball forwards into the end zone. But as often as the rule has come up this year I think it will be revisited in off season meetings and hopefully changed.

As for the extra point at the end of the game the solution is easy. Give the team the option to decline the try.
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I know that if it is blocked and returned it only counts for 2 points. What happens if the exchange is not clean or the center snaps it over the holders head and it is returned the other way....is that still only 2 points?

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