Future value of Jeter cards after HOF induction

[MVSNYC]

Glyn, 6th on the all time hits list and 5 rings is overrated?

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Glyn, 6th on the all time hits list and 5 rings is overrated?

Jeter is a first ballot HOF. He had a great career.

His numbers most closely resemble Paul Molitor. His stuff is priced like Mickey Hank and Willie. He was in the right place at the right time and drafted by the right team. But for the numbers he put up he is very overrated. No MVP awards and frequently wasn’t the best player on his own team.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Jeter is a first ballot HOF. He had a great career.

His numbers most closely resemble Paul Molitor. His stuff is priced like Mickey Hank and Willie. He was in the right place at the right time and drafted by the right team. But for the numbers he put up he is very overrated. No MVP awards and frequently wasn’t the best player on his own team.

But that's the thing -- the best player on his team for much of his career was a despised and disgraced superstar with far superior talent. Jeter was the perfect foil, and profited tremendously by the comparison to ARod I believe in the eyes of fans.

[MVSNYC]

All in good fun guys...Jeter never paid my rent (see Bronx Tale), so I don't have a particular obsession with him...I just think he had the "it" factor...Paul Molitor didn't, sorry. Jeter was a fierce competitor, team leader and gutsy player. Let's not overlook the fact that he had more hits than Honus Wagner.

[Peter_Spaeth]

10th SS in WAR per Baseball Reference. Wagner 130.8 Jeter 72.4. Let's not get too carried away invoking Wagner as a point of reference. Great player yes but his hobby standing far outstrips his pure baseball value IMO. Still, for all the reasons discussed, understandable. An easy hero in an age of users and jerks.

[MVSNYC]

Peter- the point of reference to Wagner was a simple fact, that Jeter had more hits than him, was all.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Peter- the point of reference to Wagner was a simple fact, that Jeter had more hits than him, was all.

Mike OK but it seems you assign importance to the fact. Adrian Beltre had more hits than Babe Ruth too.

Let's try it this way, if you could only pick one of the two players for your team, who would you choose, Jeter or ARod? Jeter or Miggy Cabrera? Jeter or Griffey? Jeter or Ripken?

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

All in good fun guys...Jeter never paid my rent (see Bronx Tale), so I don't have a particular obsession with him...I just think he had the "it" factor...Paul Molitor didn't, sorry. Jeter was a fierce competitor, team leader and gutsy player. Let's not overlook the fact that he had more hits than Honus Wagner.

I think that’s the point. Jeter and Molitor are equivalent players. Jeter is the most highly touted player of his generation with comparisons to Yankee Greats like Mantle, Gehrig, Mantle and Ruth. Leading to the conclusion that he is extremely overrated.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

I think that’s the point. Jeter and Molitor are equivalent players. Jeter is the most highly touted player of his generation with comparisons to Yankee Greats like Mantle, Gehrig, Mantle and Ruth. Leading to the conclusion that he is extremely overrated.

Is that true, though? I don't feel like the perception is that Jeter was as good as guys like Mantle and DiMaggio, just that he held a similar status among his teammates and enjoyed a similar amount of respect in the clubhouse and game at large.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by packs

Is that true, though? I don't feel like the perception is that Jeter was as good as guys like Mantle and DiMaggio, just that he held a similar status among his teammates and enjoyed a similar amount of respect in the clubhouse and game at large.

Exactly. He holds the same status and respect without the career = overrated.

[WillBBC]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Jeter is a first ballot HOF. He had a great career.

His numbers most closely resemble Paul Molitor. His stuff is priced like Mickey Hank and Willie. He was in the right place at the right time and drafted by the right team. But for the numbers he put up he is very overrated. No MVP awards and frequently wasn’t the best player on his own team.

This is an interesting point. Is Jeter the greatest player to never win an MVP? Manny Ramirez probably should've won one in the mid-late 90s but that never happened.

Jeter's '99 and '06 seasons were certainly MVP worthy. Falling 2nd behind Morneau in 2006 was certainly a surprise.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by WillBBC

This is an interesting point. Is Jeter the greatest player to never win an MVP? Manny Ramirez probably should've won one in the mid-late 90s but that never happened.

Jeter's '99 and '06 seasons were certainly MVP worthy. Falling 2nd behind Morneau in 2006 was certainly a surprise.

He is probably top 5 of the non-MVP winners but I'd take Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews an Wade Boggs over Jeter. He is right there in that next group of guys for me with Tony Gwynn, Eddie Murray, Manny Ramirez, Mike Piazza, Craig Biggio, Al Simmons, etc.