Yet another newbie on the board - with a remedial question

[Section103]

Hello all,

Like Paul, I too am new to the board and making my introduction. After collecting cards as a kid, I came back into the hobby as an adult 10 years ago. My focus as a collector has been putting together 3 sets for my kids - a set of HOF players (no managers, Execs, but including the Negro Leaguers), and sets of any MLB player who played collegiately at either my school or my wife's.

The experience has been enough to get my "feet wet", though obviously Im still a relative neophyte to many on the board. My question to you (since I can always learn more): What resources do you use to research existing cards on players? For example, Andy Cooper is a Negro League HOF. For all that I know the number of cards produced for him are quite low. I've been able to find a handful of graded Cuban cards, but other than that I don't know what else may be in existence. I mainly utilize eBay and search the graded populations for SGC, Beckett and PSA to find cards by player; but Im quite certain that Im missing out on areas of information.

Thanks!

[bcbgcbrcb]

Hey, Rich:

Welcome to the board! There are many knowledgeable people here that can certainly help point you in the right direction. A good start might be the OldCardboard website where a Baseball HOF Rookie Card database was recently compiled. Here's a link to the webpage:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/rookies/RookiesList.asp

If you have any questions on it, please feel free to ask.

[Jim VB]

Phil is being far too modest here and has neglected to mention that database was his work.

[barrysloate]

Paul- welcome to the board.

What college did you and your wife attend, and what major league players do you know of that played there?

[Matt]

Rich - welcome to the forum!

Another great resource for player checklists is www.vintagecardprices.com. Using and searching their checklists is free.

[Section103]

Thanks for all of the links. I'll check through them shortly.

Barry - I went to Texas A&M and my wife went to LSU (both producing numerous players). I feel extremely confident in my lists for the schools, but I'll list them out for grins:

A&M
Allen, Chad
Atchley, Justin
Balenti, Mike
Beirne, Kevin
Bell, Roy Beau
Blank, Matt
Bonner, Robert
Camilli, Lou
Carden, John
Clemons, Chris
Collins, HW Rip
Corbett, Sherman
Davis, Steve
Fossum, Casey
Granger, Jeff
Griesenbeck, Tim
Henderson, Bernie
Hollmig, Stan
Hunt, Joel
Jackson, Zach
Johnson, Davey
Katt, Ray
Kensing, Logan
Knoblauch, Chuck
Landrum, Jess
Little, Bryan Twig
Livingstone, Scott
Lueken, Rick
Magallanes, Ever
Moon, Wally
Moore, Trey
Mooty, JT Jake
Neel, Troy
Pennington,Cliff
Pippen, Cotton
Peden, Les
Rau, Doug
Ray, Robert
Reed, Eric
Rigney, EE Topper
Robertson, Rich
Ross, Mark
Ruggiano, Justin
Rupe, Ryan
Sheldon, Roland
Sodd, Bill
Swan, Russ
Thurmond, Mark
Tyner, Jason
Wunsch, Kelly

LSU
Ainsworth, Kurt
Adcock, Joe Bill
Baird, Al
Barker, Sean
Belle, Albert
Blair, Buddy
Bowie, Jim
Byrd, Paul
Corcoran, Roy
Cress, Walker
Dark, Alvin
Flair, Al
Fontenot, Mike
Freeman, Mark
Greene, Rick
Guthrie, Mark
Hawpe, Brad
Hetzel, Eric
Hill, Aaron
Hodges, Trey
Howell, Roland
Johnson, Russ
Jorgenson, Ryan
Keisler, Randy
Kerlin, Orie
Larson, Brandon
Laxton, Brett
Leskanic, Curtis
Linden, Todd
Madison, Dave
Manuel, Barry
McDonald, Ben
Mercer, John
Miley, Mike
Moock, Joe
Morris, Warren
Mouton, Lyle
O'Donoghue, John
Ogea, Chad
Osik, Keith
Parker, Clay
Reboulet, Jeff
Rios, Armando
Rowell, Carvell (Bama)
Ryan, Connie
Sadler, Billy
Sheets, Andy
Sirotka, Mike
Smith, Greg
Springer, Russ
Stavinoha, Nick
Swanson, Art Red
Tallet, Brian
Theriot, Ryan
Vargas, Jason
Voigt, Jack
Walker, Todd
Wallace, Jack
Wiles, Randy
Wilson, Brian
Womack, Sid
Yarnall, Eddie
Youman, Shane

(Sorry for the eyesore)

There are a handful of players that I simply dont believe any cards exist. For example, Bernie Henderson played at A&M back in the early part of the century and played at the MLB-level only in 1921. Over all, there's about 14 of the college players I think are non-existent.....but I always keep my eyes peeled.

[barrysloate]

That's an enormous list Rich, which should keep you busy for awhile.

[Section103]

Nah, Im 99 for 99 out of the known available players. I think Leon said on another thread that "this is a marathon, not a sprint". Whoops. Still, Im continually upgrading and adding with as many examples from my favorite sets as possible.

[barrysloate]

That's impressive!

[rdixon1208]

Welcome to the board. I use Vintage Card Prices for checklists all the time.

[mark evans]

Beckett Baseball Card Alphabetical Checklist (Amazon)

[rhettyeakley]

Hey Rich, I took a quick look at your lists, do you have the following obscure cards accounted for in your collection?

Mooty, Jake T.
• 1937 R314D Canadian

Balenti, Michael R. (Mike)
• 1910 T210 Old Mill Series 1

[drdduet]

Hi Rich and welcome to the board. GEAUX Tigers!!!

I'm not sure how an Aggie and a Tiger got together, but hey stranger things have happened.


Why does the Aggie keep empty beer cans in his dorm refrigerator?

For his friends that don't drink. he he

Good luck with the collection!

[drdduet]

I know that Jared Mitchell and Micah Gibbs both have cards out this year, so keep your eye out...

[Section103]

Rhett, Im floored, absolutely floored over the Balenti card. Just last night I found E-series cards for Rigney that I never knew existed. I was drooling over that, but the Balenti card tops that. They're both (with the Mooty) on my lists of "desperately wants".

DRD - yeah, an Aggie and a Tiger - it's pretty much exactly as you would imagine. Thanks, btw, for beating Texas in Omaha last year. Thank you, thank you, thank you. College ball starts tomorrow, btw!!!

[rhettyeakley]

Rich, no guide books that I am aware of identify the T210-1 card as Mike Balenti and the Mooty is from a pretty obscure set of Canadian Goudey premiums, so I'm not overly surprised they weren't on your list. When I get a chance later I will look at the other pre-war guys and let you know what I have in the way of cards for them (guys like Rigney Rip Collins, etc.).

-Rhett

[Section103]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

When I get a chance later I will look at the other pre-war guys and let you know what I have in the way of cards for them (guys like Rigney Rip Collins, etc.).

-Rhett

Thanks again. I want to point out that the Rip Collins in my list pitched from 1930 - 1931, born in Weatherford TX. He's not the more famous 1B with the Gashouse Gang.

[Bester]

Rich,

That is quite an acomplishment! I am an A&M grad as well. Its good to see another Aggie on the board. I have actually thought about starting the same exact project. Do you by chance have a list of the cards that corespond with each player. If so, would you be open to sharing?

Also, have you ever run across any vintage A&M baseball collectables. Just curious as I have yet to.

[rhettyeakley]

Here are my lists, keep in mind I don't generally include things like team issued photo sets or the such...

TEXAS A&M:

Bell, Roy C. (Beau)
• 1935/36 Diamond Match
• 1938 Exhibits 4/1
• 1938 Foto-Fun
• 1940 Michigan Sportservice
• 1937 O-Pee-Chee 105
• 1939 Play Ball 136
• 1940 Play Ball 138
• 1936 R312 w/bonura
• 1938 Wheaties (Ser. 10) 7

Collins, Harry Warren (Rip)
• 1924 Diaz 117
• 1921 E121-80
He is likely in Gassler's Bread set (unconfirmed)

Pippen, Henry H. (Cotton)
• 1939 Play Ball 8
• 1940 Play Ball 136
• 1937/38 Zeenuts Pippin

Rigney, Emory E. (Topper)
• 1922 E120
• 1927 E210-1 38 team/jersey
• 1927 E210-1 38 no team
• 1923/24 Exhibits
• 1925 Exhibits
• 1926 Exhibits
• 1922 Neilsons 17
• 1922 Neilsons Type II
• 1926 Sports Co of America
• 1928 W502 38
• 1923 W572
• 1922 W573

LSU:

Rowell, Carvel W. (Bama)
• 1941 Double Play 43-44

[Section103]

All wonderful information. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to help me. Im already incorporating every single tip.