N284 Buchner Gold Coin Checklist Add?

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Feeling pretty vindicated right about now.

act like you’ve been there before.

[bigfanNY]

Act like he's been there before Lol... what about the big guns that stepped up and said this card was good? When do they do the right thing? Or is ok for the OP to go to the national and sell this card and say" so and so and so and so both said it was good so I am completely justified in passing on this modern fake off as a possibility cut from an advertisement that no one has ever seen?
Folks jump and down 24/7 about card doctors and fakes. And once the back of that card was posted there was no longer a debate if the card was good it is a modern FAKE. Everyone makes mistakes me more than most but letting this drag on is just beyond the bounds of what I thought net54 considered ethical.

[RedsFan1941]

you drew a lot of conclusions from a one sentence post. scott was right. bravo. no need to flex.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Act like he's been there before Lol... what about the big guns that stepped up and said this card was good? When do they do the right thing? Or is ok for the OP to go to the national and sell this card and say" so and so and so and so both said it was good so I am completely justified in passing on this modern fake off as a possibility cut from an advertisement that no one has ever seen?
Folks jump and down 24/7 about card doctors and fakes. And once the back of that card was posted there was no longer a debate if the card was good it is a modern FAKE. Everyone makes mistakes me more than most but letting this drag on is just beyond the bounds of what I thought net54 considered ethical.

There is almost no way you can be certain it is fake or real, given the photo and info we have. Saying so, imo, is reckless. I still think it is from an ad but am not sure. If I had it in hand I could be about 95%- 99% but just from a scan the percentage is more like 65% - 70%. Again, just my half cent of wisdom from experiences.

[bigfanNY]

Not my opinion that says this is a fake it is my experiance. Handling ad cards hundreds of regular Gold coins and fakes such as these that seem to pop up here on east coast at flea markets and small shows. Everyone has an opinion...and just like the case with this card opinions can hurt less experienced card collectors.
Fact card is wrong size ad cards are same size as regular cards if cut to proportion.
Fact Color is wrong for a Brooklyn player
Fact This player has never appeared on any known Gold coin ad.
Fact I can see from card back stock is wrong for an ad card.
Would it help to have the card in hand...of course it would..
And my first suggestion to the OP after I told him it was fake was to send to A TPG. Saying "I think it's good go ahead and pass it on" that in my OPINION is reckless.
I dont have the deep pockets some here do and getting burned even for a couple hundred bucks of my limited hobby funds hurts.

[RCMcKenzie]

Looks fine to me. I collect the fronts whether they have the ad or not. Is it skinned? Sending it to a tpg would not change my opinion,although seeing it in hand might. Why would someone make a "fantasy card" of Toole?

[bigfanNY]

Ok I will keep this simple 4 easy question1-Do you have any other players with same pose as posted? 2-Any other Brooklyn players without the pinstripes ? 3- Ever seen this player on an Ad for gold coins? 4-Backs of any of your ad cards look like card posted?
As for reason Money lots of the fakes.
And this is a Card not an autograph opinions dont count it is either real or it is not. This is not a Gold Coin. Simple side by side comparison will show this to be a fact.

[bigfanNY]

Too hard? Ok I will break it down even more simply than
1- wrong size
2_wrong stock
3-wrong pose
4-Wrong colors
5-wrong back

Look at the card start at back ground( close but inconsistent with All known examples)
Then feet the shoes are way to simple they dont match All known examples)
Uniform no shading again simple drawing not up to the quality of Gold coins
Hands holding what? , hands are again to simple and baseball is not even round. Not matching all known examples...

This is just too simple it dose not Match any known examples and a close look shows drawing to be a MUCH POORER quality than ....again all known examples

When as a young man you were sent out for some shinola did you fall for the stinky brown bag with Shinola written on it or did you inspect it a little closer and come home with the right thing?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

act like you’ve been there before.

Don't like to lie