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Old 07-25-2002, 09:57 AM
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Posted By: brian parker

Was Fleer around in 1923?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1846094428

Does the stamp on the back of this card look authentic, or is this another Kendig-type manipulation?

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Old 07-25-2002, 10:08 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Obermeyer

The Fleer Corp. was founded by Frank H. Fleer in 1914 as a chewing gum company. That being said, I've never heard of any card issue from them during this time period.

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Old 07-25-2002, 10:15 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Obermeyer

The 1960 American Card Catalog lists a Fleer "E" set - "E241 - Movie Stars, Frank H. Fleer, sm." Standard size for E cards is defined (by Burdick) as 1.5" by 2.75".

The back of the card on eBay mentions famous people... it could be that most of them were movie stars (hence the ACC description), but that there were a few athletes included as well. However, that is purely speculation on my part.

I couldn't find any other listings for Fleer issues in the ACC in the "E" card section, which covers the period from about 1910-32.

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Old 07-25-2002, 10:31 AM
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There was a Babe Ruth strip card that had surfaced previously with the Fleer imprint on the back. I know it was covered by the hobby publications. In fact, it might even have been in one of Lemke's columns in SCD, but don't hold me to this.

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Posted By: nolemmings (Todd)

The set is listed as 1923 Fleerin the 1999 SCD Standard Catalogue (I'm at work and don't have my newer editions handy). The Collins card is listed at $200NM, $100EX and $60VG. The catalogue says that all 60 baseball players in the W515 set were also issued with this same Fleer advertising.
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Posted By: David

Todd is correct. The Collins appears to be a legitimate and rare card for you type card collectors.

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Posted By: brian parker

Thanks for all your helpful answers. I will be buying the 2003 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards when it comes out--my 1998 edition just doesn't cut it when it comes to some these more obscure issues. In my twenty years of collecting, I don't recall ever seeing one of these cards before.

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