NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-26-2014, 10:33 PM
clydepepper's Avatar
clydepepper clydepepper is offline
Raymond 'Robbie' Culpepper
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Columbus, GA
Posts: 6,941
Default RIP Oscar Tavares

It can happen to anyone...but don't we all feel a little cheated when we lose someone with such promise?
__________________
.
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on others lives" - Jackie Robinson

“If you have a chance to make life better for others and fail to do so, you are wasting your time on this earth.”- Roberto Clemente
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-26-2014, 10:37 PM
exitmusicgreen's Avatar
exitmusicgreen exitmusicgreen is offline
Steve
member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 61
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clydepepper View Post
It can happen to anyone...but don't we all feel a little cheated when we lose someone with such promise?
Many, many condolences + outpourings in our Blowout community. Hats off.
__________________
Blowout iTrader - http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/itrader.php?u=42913
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-26-2014, 10:57 PM
triwak's Avatar
triwak triwak is offline
Ken Wirt
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Durango, Colorado
Posts: 1,026
Default

Sad news.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-26-2014, 11:49 PM
itjclarke's Avatar
itjclarke itjclarke is offline
I@n Cl@rke
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 2,062
Default

Absolutely tragic.. the sky was the limit for him. Thoughts are with his family. RIP.

Apparently Juan Perez on the Giants was very good friends with him and prior to his triple tonight (just after hearing the news, dedicated the at bat to him), he dedicated the at bat to him.

Last edited by itjclarke; 10-26-2014 at 11:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-27-2014, 12:22 AM
DerekMichael's Avatar
DerekMichael DerekMichael is offline
D@rek H.ogue
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CA
Posts: 702
Default

So awful.

It reminds me of when I was a kid and a young man in the Mets organization named Brian Cole was killed in a car cash.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-27-2014, 12:30 AM
Rickyy Rickyy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 965
Default

So sad...looks like he was going to be a pretty good player for many years to come... condolences to the Tavares and the Cardinals Family...

Ricky Y
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-29-2014, 09:59 AM
irishdenny's Avatar
irishdenny irishdenny is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,538
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekMichael View Post
So awful.

It reminds me of when I was a kid and a young man in the Mets organization named Brian Cole was killed in a car cash.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Derek, I Remember Him Well...
I'm a Life Long Met Fan at Heart. I was born iN Astoria, NY.
When I pulled this Card I was Sooo Excited!

And Now Oscar... Blessings to the Family's... Always!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2001 Brian Cole RC_Front.jpg (75.6 KB, 269 views)
File Type: jpg 2001 Brian Cole RC_Back.jpg (71.2 KB, 269 views)
__________________
Life's Grand,
Denny Walsh
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-27-2014, 05:40 PM
granite75's Avatar
granite75 granite75 is offline
Scott Maxell
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 157
Default

As a Boston fan, the first thing that came to my mind was Len Bias. So much promise, about to take a championship caliber team into its next era, and shockingly robbed of it all. Just terrible.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-27-2014, 06:34 PM
deadballfreaK's Avatar
deadballfreaK deadballfreaK is offline
Ken Madden
Ken.neth D. M@dden
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Little Egypt
Posts: 577
Default

__________________
T206-520/524 T205-209/221 T207-68/200 T213-2 -65/185 E90-1 102/120 Topps 1954,1959,1964 Bowman 1954 complete
Deals competed with: jb217676, marcdelpercio, dog*dirt, srs1a, KennyCole, ullmandds, RCMcKenzie, edhans, dboneesq, mybuddyinc, nineunder71, uke, T206kid, & more
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-27-2014, 06:51 PM
Matvoo's Avatar
Matvoo Matvoo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 282
Default

RIP TAVERAS
WAS GOING TO PICK UP HIS AUTO 2 WEEKS AGO BUT DIDNT
Nice custom ken
__________________
1909-1911 T206
15 Year Old Collector
Deals Done with: btcarfagno, tonyo
10 T206s
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-27-2014, 08:07 PM
EvilKing00's Avatar
EvilKing00 EvilKing00 is offline
Steve P
Steven Pacc.hiano
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: New York
Posts: 2,405
Default

Aweful news, the kid had so much talent. Also his 18 year old girl friend passed away as well. Very sad
__________________
Successful transactions with: Drumback, Mart8081, Obcmac, Tonyo, markf31, gnaz01, rainier2004, EASE, Bobsbats, Craig M, TistaT202, Seiklis, Kenny Cole, T's please, Vic, marcdelpercio, poorlydrawncat, brianp-beme, mybuddyinc, Glchen, chernieto , old-baseball , Donscards, Centauri, AddieJoss, T2069bk,206fix, joe v, smokelessjoe, eggoman, botn, canjond

Looking for T205's or anything Babe Ruth...email or PM me if you have any to sell.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-13-2014, 09:47 AM
Lordstan's Avatar
Lordstan Lordstan is offline
M@rk V3l@rd3
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 3,801
Default

"Tessie Sanchez, a spokeswoman for the attorney general's office in the Dominican Republic, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that toxicology reports showed Taveras had a blood-alcohol level five times the legal limit when*he lost control of his car Oct. 26 on a highway in Puerto Plata."

OMG. He was 5x the legal limit! It's a tragedy, but I have to ask when will people learn?
__________________
My signed 1934 Goudey set(in progress).
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjFuyogy

Other interests/sets/collectibles.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96571220@N08/albums

My for sale or trade photobucket album
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7c1SRL

Last edited by Lordstan; 11-13-2014 at 09:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-13-2014, 10:01 AM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,521
Default

I didn't even know it was possible to be conscious and have a Blood Alcohol Level that high. In death, he's a killer.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-13-2014, 10:58 AM
GregMitch34's Avatar
GregMitch34 GregMitch34 is offline
Greg Mitchell
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City area
Posts: 2,420
Default

So let's stop honoring him. Killed himself--and another. Could have been more.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-13-2014, 11:00 AM
Lordstan's Avatar
Lordstan Lordstan is offline
M@rk V3l@rd3
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 3,801
Default

According to the World Health Org, they say that the legal limit in the DR for BAC is .05 , so he was at .25 when he was driving. Not sure how he could even be standing.
__________________
My signed 1934 Goudey set(in progress).
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjFuyogy

Other interests/sets/collectibles.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96571220@N08/albums

My for sale or trade photobucket album
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7c1SRL
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-13-2014, 12:12 PM
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards's Avatar
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards I Only Smoke 4 the Cards is offline
Alex
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,114
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordstan View Post
According to the World Health Org, they say that the legal limit in the DR for BAC is .05 , so he was at .25 when he was driving. Not sure how he could even be standing.
Some alcoholics can function pretty normally with high BAC.
__________________
Tackling the Monster
T206 = 213/524
HOFs = 13/76
SLers = 33/48
Horizontals = 6/6

ALWAYS looking for T206 with back damage.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-13-2014, 12:32 PM
Lordstan's Avatar
Lordstan Lordstan is offline
M@rk V3l@rd3
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 3,801
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards View Post
Some alcoholics can function pretty normally with high BAC.
As a family physician, I am aware that alcoholics and users of other drugs can tolerate high doses of the specific drug in question, while not appearing impaired and appearing to function mostly normally, but that is not the case here. A person only using alcohol socially or occasionally would have a hard time, IMO, tolerating a BAC that high while still being able to function.

To this point, Taveras has not been painted as or rumored to be, at least not that I had read, an "alcoholic" or even a hard party goer. In today's age of internet news, etc, nothing seems to be hidden. It's hard to believe that a celebrity would be have that much of an alcohol problem, without it being made public.

So, if he didn't have a chronic problem, I find it surprising that with a BAC of 0.25 he could have walked to his car, found his keys, unlocked the door, start the car, and then start to drive.
__________________
My signed 1934 Goudey set(in progress).
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjFuyogy

Other interests/sets/collectibles.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96571220@N08/albums

My for sale or trade photobucket album
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7c1SRL
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-13-2014, 03:34 PM
calvindog's Avatar
calvindog calvindog is offline
Jeffrey Lichtman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 5,521
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordstan View Post
According to the World Health Org, they say that the legal limit in the DR for BAC is .05 , so he was at .25 when he was driving. Not sure how he could even be standing.
If it was only .25 it's not so high that he couldn't drive. Once you hit around .35 you're pretty much out on your feet. At .40 you're in coma territory.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-13-2014, 03:53 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30,397
Default

What's the limit in most US jurisdictions?
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-13-2014, 04:23 PM
Lordstan's Avatar
Lordstan Lordstan is offline
M@rk V3l@rd3
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 3,801
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by calvindog View Post
If it was only .25 it's not so high that he couldn't drive. Once you hit around .35 you're pretty much out on your feet. At .40 you're in coma territory.
I guess it's possible.

This is cut and pasted from the university of ND website, but many other sites have similar tables.

BAC level Generalized Dose Specific Effects:

BAC Level Effect of Alcohol
BAC = 0.02 to 0.03% No loss of coordination, slight euphoria and loss of shyness. Depressant effects are not apparent.

BAC = 0.04 to 0.06% Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, and sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of reasoning and memory, lowering of caution.

BAC = 0.07 to 0.09% Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Reduced judgment and self-control. Impaired reasoning, memory, and sense of cautiousness.
0.08 BAC is legally impaired and it is illegal to drive at this level.

BAC = 0.10-0.125% Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time, and hearing will be impaired.

BAC = 0.13-0.15% Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reducing and dysphoria is beginning to appear.

BAC = 0.16-0.20% Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a “sloppy drunk.” May vomit.
The average BAC among fatally injured drivers is 0.17, which is also the average BAC nationally for persons arrested for drunk driving.

BAC = 0.25% Needs assistance in walking; total mental confusion. Dysphoria with nausea and some vomiting. Death has occurred at this level, and it is considered a medical emergency.

BAC = 0.30% Loss of consciousness.

BAC = 0.40% + Onset of coma, possible death due to respiratory arrest.

This is from Wikipedia
0.20–0.29
Stupor
Loss of understanding
Impaired sensations
Possibility of falling unconscious
Severe motor impairment
Loss of consciousness
Memory blackout

From Lifeloc
0.25 All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Near total loss of motor function control. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.
__________________
My signed 1934 Goudey set(in progress).
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjFuyogy

Other interests/sets/collectibles.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96571220@N08/albums

My for sale or trade photobucket album
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7c1SRL

Last edited by Lordstan; 11-13-2014 at 04:25 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-13-2014, 12:12 PM
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards's Avatar
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards I Only Smoke 4 the Cards is offline
Alex
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,114
Default

The highest BAC that I have seen is .32. That guy couldn't stand and kept passing out.
__________________
Tackling the Monster
T206 = 213/524
HOFs = 13/76
SLers = 33/48
Horizontals = 6/6

ALWAYS looking for T206 with back damage.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-13-2014, 01:42 PM
Runscott's Avatar
Runscott Runscott is offline
Belltown Vintage
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,651
Default

The ESPN sportswoman-caster just called the Bears the 'Berries', then 30 seconds later said 'Shake off' when she meant 'Shake-up'. She quickly corrected herself in both case, but I can't wait until after the commercial break. Hoping she has a couple of drinks during that period so that we can hear even more interesting things.

Drunks might be able to stay on the road, but anyone who falls asleep can drive off the road and crash.
__________________
$co++ Forre$+
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Oscar Robertston 1st Collectible Ever Andy Sandler Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T 3 12-22-2011 06:29 AM
WTB/WTT Oscar Charleston Aguilitas Matt 1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T 0 06-21-2011 09:36 PM
FS: R313 Oscar Melillo SGC 40 Robextend 1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T 0 12-08-2010 08:40 PM
t205 oscar strange Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 1 04-21-2008 09:43 AM
What the heck is this? (Oscar Charleston) Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 04-11-2007 10:31 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:50 PM.


ebay GSB