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Old 12-09-2008, 10:07 PM
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Posted By: Richie

Hey guys, Does this look legit and does this front and back combo even exist. Thanks Richie [linked image]

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Old 12-10-2008, 01:25 AM
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Posted By: Dan Collins

The card looks real, are you selling it??

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Old 12-10-2008, 03:51 AM
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Posted By: Richie

I do not own it. My friend picked it up. he is taking it down to SGC on Friday or Monday

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Old 12-10-2008, 05:26 AM
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looks real to me.

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Old 12-10-2008, 05:29 AM
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Thanks Guys

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Old 12-10-2008, 05:51 AM
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It also looks like a brown Lenox.

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Old 12-10-2008, 05:54 AM
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Posted By: peter ullman

definitely looks real...but doesn't look like brown back to me.

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Old 12-10-2008, 06:05 AM
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Posted By: Donavon Arabie

Is your friend selling it? If so...pm me.

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Old 12-10-2008, 06:06 AM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I agree with real. Have you held the card? The back looks ever so slightly odd, if you hold it look at the edges to see if there is a sandwich effect. Super remote possibility that it is a real front sandwiched onto an odd back. I'd look for that... yet I'm satisfied that it is real. Nice card!

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Old 12-10-2008, 06:09 AM
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sure looks fine to me, what a great find

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Old 12-10-2008, 06:35 AM
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Posted By: peter ullman

good point, Frank...it may be rebacked!

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Old 12-10-2008, 07:11 AM
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Posted By: MikePugeda

Not sure if it's rebacked. Doesn't appear to be. There is a stain on the front lower left that shows through on to the back. Nice card...your friend will be getting some offers.

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Old 12-10-2008, 07:31 AM
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Posted By: dan mckee

It is real and it looks Brown, could be 5 figures easy.

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Old 12-10-2008, 08:11 AM
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Posted By: Richie

Mike at SGC was spoken to. He is getting graded friday

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Old 12-10-2008, 08:22 AM
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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Beautiful card.. and the best part is, I thought it was real before checking the other responses and the others said it was real also.. which means I'm getting better at this or just lucky. I nearly crapped my pants when I saw the back!

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Old 12-10-2008, 10:24 AM
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Posted By: PC

Could be rebacked, but the size of the bottom and right borders leads me to believe it is ok. The chances of finding an oversized Cobb/bat front and an oversized Lenox back, and then marrying the two with enough room left over to show have two wide borders (after cutting and sanding the overlap), is unlikely.

On the other hand, the shading/toning/roughness around the borders (visible on the back) makes me a little nervous. If it's rebacked or otherwise faked, it's a real good one.

Would love to hear the verdict from SGC. A great find if it's real.

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Old 12-10-2008, 10:29 AM
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Posted By: George

Can Ted or anyone chime in on if this front/back is known to exist

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Old 12-10-2008, 10:37 AM
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Hi George,

Yes, the Cobb bat off does exist with a Lenox back. In fact I have seen at least 3-4 others that I can remember. It's difficult to tell from the picture wether the card has Brown or Black ink on the back, but overall it doesn't look rebacked in the pictures.



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Old 12-10-2008, 10:44 AM
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Posted By: Scott Levy

What a find!! That is a fantastic card so congrats to your friend. I'm also not sure if it's brown or black but either way that is a wonderful combo. If he's looking to sell or trade it I'd love a shot at it - scottglevy@yahoo.com

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Old 12-10-2008, 11:21 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

The way the light is shining on it it looks brown, but it might look different in person. And it does not appear to be rebacked, it seems just right to me.

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Old 12-10-2008, 11:31 AM
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Posted By: jason

it looks real and does not toy can' ll by a pic or a scan what i think you should do is put it under a black light and if it glows it is new card stock. the other thing is you can get a magnifying glass and look at the pic thats the best way i can tell

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Old 12-10-2008, 12:30 PM
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Posted By: barry arnold

looks real.
what a great find.
congrats to the owner.

best,

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Old 12-10-2008, 12:35 PM
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Posted By: George

Be easier to see in person lined up next to other Lenox, but if I had to guess, my guess is brown...and if so, I am impressed. Hope the owner posts the card after it gets back from sgc

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Old 12-10-2008, 01:18 PM
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Posted By: robert a

It's real and it looks like brown lenox which is great, but I think it's possible that the cobb has been rebacked.

It's discolored and darkened all the way around the edges. The "stain" on the front looks like a glue soak to me that is evident on the back as well.

The corners look like they've been evened out to make up for any overlap or mismatch. Doesn't appear to be your average corner wear.

Looks like a professional job though.

With most rebacks, the people waste their time putting together an impossible combo but if this is a reback this person was finally smart about putting together a possible combo.

Of course I might be wrong and hope so for the guy who owns it sake. It's an important T206 find!



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Old 12-10-2008, 05:49 PM
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

It sure looks like a Brown LENOX....Richie which color is it ?
That may be a very important factor.

If it's Black, as BRIAN W said....this Cobb has been confirmed with this back.

If it's Brown, then it may be problematic. As, the few Brown LENOX backs that I've seen have been on T206's in the 460-only
Series.

But, this Cobb is in the 350/460 Series.

Perhaps, Brian W or Dan McKee can chime and confirm or contradict this observation on Brown LENOX T206's ? ?

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Old 12-10-2008, 09:38 PM
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Posted By: Richie

To me it looks brown. Friday it will be taken to SGC. Hopefully for my friends sake its brown. But either way its a great find.

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Old 12-10-2008, 09:48 PM
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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Hi Ted,
I can't tell from the picture if the print is Black or Brown, but I have seen both on 350 and 460 series cards. I'll try to post a few scans tomorrow if I have a chance, but I doubt anyone who hasn't seen them side to side in person can tell the difference.

Be well Brian


PS A high resolution scan would be better than the pictures...

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Old 12-12-2008, 01:27 PM
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Card is back from SGC. [linked image]
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Posted By: Rob D.

Congrats to you (or your friend). And be prepared for your e-mail inbox to reach its limit in the next few hours.

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Posted By: peter ullman

wow...what a find. And a Brown back to boot..Wow!

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Wow. Congrats to your friend.

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Posted By: George Leidemer

very....very....nice! That's all I can say

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Posted By: bigfish

Wow! Super nice card! Congrats!

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Old 12-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Posted By: David Smith

Unless I win the lottery, I can not afford this card so you probably don't ahve to worry about me.

My question, though, is this; what is the story or history behind this card? Found in an attic, old book or a wall? Did/down an old time collector own this or was this just a find that the owners didn't really know much about?

Just curious. You don't have to answer if you don't want to, I will understand. However when something fairly rare comes along it is nice to hear the story behind it.

David

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Posted By: George Leidemer

You read my mind. Was getting ready to ask the same thing. Where did this beauty come from?

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Sweet.. Flippin Sweet... Congrats

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Old 12-13-2008, 09:41 AM
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Posted By: Richie

This was found in an attic in Long Island NY. There was other cards there also. Walter Johnson w/El principle back. A red t206 Cobb T205 Cobb.t205 Speaker. And about 45 T206 commons. Tobacco boxing cards, bird cards,some flag cards. With other cards i never seen.All tobacco cards Richie

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I'm glad this card is not rebacked.

It's one of the nicest front/back combinations I've ever seen.
Thanks for sharing it with us.

Congrats!!

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Posted By: peter ullman

what an unbelievable find...that's like winning the lottery...a one in a few million card! i've never seen a cobb w/brown lenox back...has anyone?

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Not me Peter, 1st one my eyes have seen. Not sure it is lottery money but an impressive find for sure! Dan.

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Old 12-13-2008, 04:06 PM
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Posted By: Brian E.

I have a Lenox Cobb as well.....but its black and not the much rarer brown. I wonder if this is one in a kind!

Great find, you plan on keeping it or putting it up on the auction block? I'm really curious what the value is on it.

Brian E.

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wow!
great find!

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