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Old 02-18-2015, 07:49 AM
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AJ Firestone told me he has seen a few over the years being from that area. They are really tough. It seems anything that is blank-backed or not readily identified on the front or back is a real treasure hunt.


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Old 02-18-2015, 07:51 AM
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The notebooks page is larger than the calendar. I paid full price when I bought them but happy now that I did.


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Old 02-19-2015, 02:01 PM
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You can't talk about 1920s football cards without covering the iconic Spalding/Sports Co. of America set.

The football set is actually a subset of a much larger multi-sport set produced by the AG Spalding company to promote their products. I believe these cards were distributed along with a scrip that could be used as $$$ to buy Spalding products and equipment. There is a lot more info on this set in Carl's iconic football card book: "Collecting Vintage Football Cards". Anybody collecting vintage football NEEDS this book by the way as it's very comprehensive.

If you go out to ebay you will see a BUNCH of cards from this set available but not many of the football ones. In general they are very difficult to find and some are virtually impossible. There are 14 football cards in the set plus a promotional Red Grange card that was only distributed in an uncut salesman's sample so it is very rare. The cards come with three different backs: blank back, ad back, and bio/stats back with ad backs being the rarest. Besides being distributed in 1926, there are versions that have a 1927 copyright on them as well. This is considered a separate set even though the cards are all the same. The 1927 copyright cards are even more difficult to find.









For many of the stars in this set, their cards pre-date their official rookie cards by years if not decades. I've personally never understood the reasoning behind not designating someone's first card as their rookie card but I suspect it was done through a combination of ignorance about earlier sets, the belief that a rookie card must be nationally distributed by a major set producer, and the TPGs wanting to drive demand for rookie and HOF registry sets by choosing cards with higher populations.

Pre-rookies of note in this set include: Red Grange, Ernie Nevers, Benny Friedman, Harry Stuldreher. All are the first cards ever produced for these players except Grange as it is likely his Shotwell cards and his W590 strip card came earlier.





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Old 02-20-2015, 09:35 AM
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Jeff do you have or have you seen a salesman sample in a full strip, with the grange?? Awesome cards, thanks for the history lesson I had no idea about all the prewar football out there!! I am going to order the book as well.

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Old 02-20-2015, 10:24 AM
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I'm enjoying the cards, but I feel like the kid who wasn't picked for the kickball game. I've got nothing!
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:49 AM
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I believe a few uncut sheets have come up for sale during the past 10 years but haven't seen one in a looooong time. I know several of these were cut up and the individual cards were sold which is something I'm not a big fan of doing.

Preserve history, don't destroy it!

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Old 02-21-2015, 12:12 PM
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Wheaties has been featuring athletes on its boxes for decades. In the mid 1930s, they created several sets of football players that could be cut off Wheaties boxes and collected. Here are a few of the stars and HOFers.











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Old 02-23-2015, 05:21 AM
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Speaking of cereal sets, in 1937 Kellogg's distributed multi-sport stamps inside Pep brand cereal boxes. They came in four-stamp blocks and 24 different blocks were produced with 90 different athletes included (6 players are double prints and appear on two blocks). You will see these stamps for sale in both block and individual stamp forms as the stamps were perforated and meant to be separated and put in an album.

Football stars in this set include Grange, Nevers, Thorpe, Nagurski.


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Old 02-23-2015, 08:16 PM
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That Wayne Milner panel is a bear to obtain


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Old 02-23-2015, 08:20 PM
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I have seen 1925, 1926, and 1927 Sport Company of America


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