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1952 Topps Images of All Variations <Rolling Thread>
I thought it might be fun to have a thread on 1952 Topps Variations keep a list of all the known variations in once place. 1952 Topps has often been compared to a post-war equivalent of the Monster - the T206 with a total of 407 cards - but many more variations are known and now are at 650+. "Old Timers" that collected this set considered a card to be a true variation if they could find 10 cards with the same variation - and their list of the complete set had over 700 cards! Completing a set with all variations - red & black back, mid-series gray backs, high # double printed left & right arrow cards, yellow House variations, Campos red star/black star variations as well as the various print variations makes it quite a challenge to complete - and a significant challenge to even the experienced collector.
I thought it would be helpful to keep a running list of all of the cards/variations in the set. In the Higgins & Scott auction, they listed a total of 579 cards which they noted was the most complete set at the time. The link to the auction is here (thanks Al-R): http://aug13.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=59354 PDF of variations in auction (thanks Irv): http://aug13.hugginsandscott.com/pdf/1952_topps.pdf However, the "complete" set with all variations comprises many more cards. Here is the original N54 thread with some of the variations: https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=294679 One PSA registry collector has a good list of most variations here: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...gegallery/5747 1952 Topps The 22 Red Strip Cards Article (Thanks Patrick): https://oldbaseball.com/m/refs/1952_...ed_Stripes.pdf N54 1952 Topps Campanella thread: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132556 However, none of these sources are complete. For future reference, and perhaps to get the grading companies to recognize some of the variations I thought it would be helpful to the newer collectors to keep a repository of all known variations. Variations = print variations, paper variations, color toning variations from using different ink and state errors, wrong back errors, printing errors, etc. So let's get rolling and add images on a rolling list of all the unique variations. Rolling List of 1952 Topps Variations Set Card Count - 407 cards PSA Master Set - 491 Cards PSA Super Set - 551 Cards Huggins & Scott Master Set - 579 Cards Current Master Set Count - 650 Cards #1-80a Red Back #1-80b Black Back #42a Kretlow - Post #23 Red Back, Orange background #42b Kretlow - Post #23 Black Back, yellow background #42c Kretlow - Post #23 Red Back, peach background #43a Scarborough - (No Pic) Red Back, Light Peach background #43b Scarborough - (No Pic) Black Back, Light Peach/Yellow background #43c Scarborough - (No Pic) Black Back, Peach background #55 Boone - Post #23 Red Back, light olive background #55 Boone - Post #23 Red Back, dark olive background #55 Boone - Post #23 Black Back, light olive background #55 Boone - Post #23 Black Back, dark olive background #57 Lopat, Ed - Post #5 Red Back; Red Blob, below right eye #77 Kennedy, No (or partial) Bottom Border, Red Back #116 Scheib (Red Back only) - Partial Frame Break, lower left vertical frame #131-190 Tan Back #131-190 Gray Back #146 House, Tan Back #146 House, Gray Back #146 House, Tan Back Yellow Tiger #146 House, Tan Back Yellow Tiger, Green Neck #146 House, Gray Back Yellow Tiger (No red in on tongue to be considered a Yellow House) #162 Crandall, print mark (circular area, missing red ink) #191 Berra - Red Stripe (right side) #196 Hemus - red stripe right shoulder (left side of card) #200 Houk Post #29 light pink background, normal tint #200 Houk Post #29, dark pink background, red facial tint #200 Houk - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #201 Berra - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #205 King- Red Stripe top right border Post #66-68 #206 Ostrowski - Red Stripe left side Post #66-68 #210 Fowler - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #211 Coleman - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #215 Bauer - Red Stripe (Top Right Corner) Post #66-68 #216 Ashburn - #220 Presko - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #221 Hamner - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #225 Baumholtz (Horizontal card) Red Stripe on bottom border Post #66-68 #226 Philley - Red Stripe, right shoulder Post #66-68 #230 Batts - Red Stripe (left third) Post #66-68 #231 Zoldak - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #235 Dropo - Red Stripe (bottom) Post #66-68 #235 Dropo - Print Blob, right side of face on green background, Post #75 #236 Fitzgerald - Red Stripe, right shoulder Post #66-68 #240 Phillips - Red Stripe (left third) Post #66-68 #241 Byrne - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #245 Robertson - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #246 Kell - Red Stripe (right side) Post #66-68 #250 Erskine - Red Stripe (left third) Post #66-68 #295 Cavarretta, Post #52 red print mark near right edge #306 Sleator Post #37, green oblong slash on right arm #307 Campos Post #31, 34, 43 regular card #307 Campos Post #31, red-star, black-star on reverse #307 Campos Post #31, red-star, partial black-star on reverse #307 Campos Post #31, 34, 43 partial top border break #307 Campos Post #31, 34, 43 top border break corrected #307 Campos Post #31, partial red-star, black-star (no pic) #314 Campanella Post #49, Missing R in "Major" (and part of line above) on reverse of card in "Major League Batting Record" #327 Wilson Post #5 - Green Blob, left eyebrow #358 Kucab Post #14, (unverified, no pic) fingerprint on image #358 Kucab Post #45, Scratched printing plate, bottom front I will update the list from information provided below when time permits. Last edited by Zach Wheat; 04-23-2024 at 09:27 AM. Reason: Edit list |
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What are the ground rules ?
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There are already a lot of them posted in this thread:
https://net54baseball.com/showthread...+topps+gallery |
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Good Question. The intent was to have this thread be a reference for the less common variations. Some are posted in the other N54 thread mentioned above. Master set collectors - in general - recognize the "master set" as consisting of the original 407 cards + 80 red back/black back 1st series cards + 60 mid-series gray backs + 3 left/right arrow high # double prints = 550 recognized card variations as part of the "master set". Post any of these "rare" variations if you have them. It is always nice to see the left & right arrow double prints.
As previously noted, Huggins & Scott counted 579 cards as part of the most complete master set (so 29 more variations). I believe there are others. By my count, there are close to 600+/- cards and variations in the master set. It would be great to have a running thread that emphasizes these 50 +/- remaining variations as well as any new variations found. Last edited by Zach Wheat; 03-29-2023 at 05:43 AM. Reason: typos |
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Here are couple of new ones I pointed out to Al in the 52 thread but I'm unsure if these went anywhere?
Green splotch over Archie Wilson's left eyebrow (High Number Card #327) and a red splotch under Ed Lopat's right eye. (Card #57) I did a search and some have these marks and others don't but I don't know if those signify a variation or not? (Ed Lopat is a red back card. I have not seen this on black back cards))
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52 Topps cards. https://www.flickr.com/photos/144160280@N05/ http://www.net54baseball.com/album.php?albumid=922 Last edited by irv; 03-29-2023 at 09:44 AM. |
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A few of my variations.
My Frank House Yellow Tiger card (Card #147) does not have Frank with the greenish neck which seems to be the norm with these Yellow Tiger cards. I believe, according to some on here, this is the more tougher one of the 2 Yellow Tiger cards?
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52 Topps cards. https://www.flickr.com/photos/144160280@N05/ http://www.net54baseball.com/album.php?albumid=922 Last edited by irv; 03-29-2023 at 09:56 AM. |
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Zac---had not seen the PSA link. It has a couple I had not seen. I have never added the ones in the 52 Gallery thread you posted that are not in the H&S list of 579 ( like a couple Dale posted), so do not have a list of 600 plus. I assume if you do it is "proprietary" for now ? Seems to me if we are going to catalog what is out there it would be best to go 1-407 and let people identify anything they have for each number.
For example for #1 Pafko would be two ? ( red and black). |
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Irv,
I was not aware of the Wilson or Lopat variations. The House yellow Tiger variation comes in both a normal tan back and gray back. The House yellow Tiger version appears to have a green neck version, similar to the one you posted but more pronounced. Your thoughts on rarity of this version are consistent with my understanding, although I am certainly not an expert. |
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