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Old 12-16-2012, 12:15 PM
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:40 PM
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This could be a key card towards your research Steve, crop mark in the top right corner, plus the plate scratch. You now know where one card definitely was on the sheet

It also has a wet sheet transfer, which I noticed on at least one other scan posted too
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After all this it would be pretty funny if the Plank was indeed suffering from plate problems and was pulled!
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:10 PM
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If the T206 Plank was yanked due to "printing plate problems", then why isn't he featured on any other Tobacco cards printed at American
Lithographic (T3, T201, T202, T205, T213, T214, or T215) ?

The real story is that Eddie Plank and his boss, Connie Mack, were anti-tobacco guys. But, they did not go public about this as Wagner did.
They just did not give ATC permission to print their images on these tobacco cards.

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Ted, no offense but that is not the “real” story nobody knows the “real” story all we have is theories. Your theory is as good as most but it’s not iron clad fact.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:48 PM
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Steve,

Not my cards but it seems there are three different Neal Ball plate scratches.
I found a bunch of the first one (10 or more) and two each of the other two.
Here are two of each of them.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:12 PM
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Ted, no offense but that is not the “real” story nobody knows the “real” story all we have is theories. Your theory is as good as most but it’s not iron clad fact.
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Not a theory.....this is documented in Connie Mack's biography. A 2nd source is Connie Mack's Grandson, Connie Mack III. I had a nice conversation with him
at a Philadelphia A's Historical Society Luncheon about 10 years ago. He told me that his Grandfather was very anti-tobacco. He signed my 1950 A's Program.





Furthermore, I came across an article several years ago on Eddie Plank, which noted that Plank would not endorse tobacco products. I guess his RAMLY card
is an exception to this.


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Old 12-20-2012, 04:21 PM
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Ted sorry I disagree it is a theory you have. There’s nothing wrong with that but it isn’t fact and does not close the case on the T206 Plank. No matter how nice Mr. Mack’s grandson was or how delightful the tuna salad was at the luncheon. I don’t know if you had tuna salad or not it’s just my theory.

Ted, there are more exceptions to consider than T204. There is T216, T208, and Punch Cigars etc.

It’s an interesting theory Ted and I think it’s as good as any but I think it’s dangerous and a bit early to say case closed. There is also no way for you to say case closed either if you’re being honest. We just don’t know enough about this card or Mr. Planks views on his inserts let alone his motives if he had any at all regarding these.
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