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Old 05-15-2017, 09:10 AM
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Default Market flattening definitely

Watching last few auctions, definitely feels to me that with rare exception prices have flattened out and are not rising like we saw last year. In LOTG, Heritage, and REA, I walked away with nice Gehrig/Ruth items at prices lower than I anticipated. Not complaining. On the positive side, things seems a little more orderly and weeding out "irrational exuberance" in the market is probably a good thing. Also positive in that to the extent the market has corrected there is no widespread crash of any kind as many have predicted on this board.

On the negative side, I haven't recovered as much on items consigned as expected. Goes both ways.

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Old 05-15-2017, 09:41 AM
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There is no doubt there has been an influx of very high quality cards in a short period of time recently (at least to me). That has to have depressed things a little bit. When auction after auction has incredible cards some of them have to fall.
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:53 AM
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I've used it as a buying opportunity, although, I must confess, that I have over extended myself a tad. I've tried to focus on value and buy non-mainsteam items that don't come up every day. I picked up a E253 Cobb last week at just over 1/2 my snipe. I was floored! We'll see - fingers crossed.

The market is a bit flooded right now and for better or worse, the big auction season is tax season. I guess you gotta spend your refund on something. Everybody will take a breath and then we'll see a ramp up of activity as we approach the National.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:16 AM
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Steve, have you seen the recent prices on T206 Cobbs? CJs? '48 Leaf Jackies?

Sure, maybe the market has cooled on '55 Clementes because there are 1000s of them. There are winners and losers right now, and claims of a market-wide flattening is not an accurate assessment.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:37 AM
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Steve, have you seen the recent prices on T206 Cobbs? CJs? '48 Leaf Jackies?

Sure, maybe the market has cooled on '55 Clementes because there are 1000s of them. There are winners and losers right now, and claims of a market-wide flattening is not an accurate assessment.
High end cards, postcards, T206s and the cards noted above are more expensive than they have ever been. A PSA 8 1914 CJ Cobb sold for 144K the other night; it sold for 44K less than three years ago.
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I have to agree with the last 2 comments. The pre-war cards I've been watching and bidding on seem to all be going for record prices. Cobb, Jackson, and Ruth seem to be pretty hot right now. A psa 3 e90-1 Jackson just went for 60k or so. And a 14 cj psa 2 for 30k.
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The prices of a lot of cards have fallen since last summer, but not all of them. When collectors started seeing the insane prices high-end Clementes, Gretzkys, Ewings, etc. were bringing, they decided to put theirs up for sale as well, and like Wondo says, this ended up flooding the market. Now the ones that are still going strong are those that very few collectors own. If we see a high-end 51' Parkhurst Gordie Howe Rookie selling for a crazy price, can hundreds of other collectors list theirs for sale too? Nope, because there are not that many out there.
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Insightful

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I am way less in-tune with the market changes than some of you guys, and my targets are on a completely lower level most of the time, but from what I've seen, prices seem to still be steadily increasing. Not sure if this is true, but it seems that the lower-end T206/Pre-War HoFers seem to be steadily rising in value. Lajoie has popped nicely over the last year, year and a half. Some of the other guys seem to be increasing in value by the $10s (if that makes sense) which might not seem like a lot to some of you, but to me it's a decent pop.

I love the card market.
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For some of the card that may have flattened, like high-grade CJs, I think we are now seeing a bump in the appealing low grade and mid grade cards as collectors look at what has happened to the high-grade stuff and figure that they had better get an example of what is a relatively rare card while they still can.
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