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Old 05-15-2017, 02:18 PM
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Steve, have you seen the recent prices on T206 Cobbs? CJs? '48 Leaf Jackies?

Sure, maybe the market has cooled on '55 Clementes because there are 1000s of them. There are winners and losers right now, and claims of a market-wide flattening is not an accurate assessment.
48 Jackie is an iconic card. And prices are going generally DOWN over the last year.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:23 PM
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Even more dramatic for the higher graded Paige Leaf card.

PSA 7
This year: $66,000
Last year: $108,039

SGC 84
This year: $52,000
Lasr year $71,820
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:39 PM
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i guess prices are catching up...or back to the shills!
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Even more dramatic for the higher graded Paige Leaf card.

PSA 7
This year: $66,000
Last year: $108,039

SGC 84
This year: $52,000
Lasr year $71,820
Is this the part where some of us cite cards that are going up in value? I never get the point of this fairly regular exercise, when no one really collects the true entire spectrum/market of baseball cards.

In other words, at any given point, some cards sell for a massive increase, others a modest increase, others modest or larger declines. One guy cites a PSA 7 Paige, the next guy hangs a lantern on the Shoeless Joes at Heritage or the Mantles at REA that sold for record highs, and on and on the cycle goes.

So why truck in broad generalizations? We can't lump together all sportscards into one "market" anymore than we can lump together all cards in the same grade.
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Is this the part where some of us cite cards that are going up in value? I never get the point of this fairly regular exercise, when no one really collects the true entire spectrum/market of baseball cards.

In other words, at any given point, some cards sell for a massive increase, others a modest increase, others modest or larger declines. One guy cites a PSA 7 Paige, the next guy hangs a lantern on the Shoeless Joes at Heritage or the Mantles at REA that sold for record highs, and on and on the cycle goes.

So why truck in broad generalizations? We can't lump together all sportscards into one "market" anymore than we can lump together all cards in the same grade.
I agree, you can obviously cite cards going the other way (up). All I said in my original post is that in watching every major auction this year I can say pretty confidentially that a large swath or cards is either flat or down from last year. Obviously their are cards that have gone up. But when one of the first cards someone cites back to me is the Jackie Leaf card, and a quick search of VCP shows that card is actually trending down, I think that's worth pointing out.

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Old 05-15-2017, 02:51 PM
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I agree, you can obviously cite cards going the other way (up). All I said in my original post is that in watching every major auction this year I can say pretty confidentially that a large swath or cards is either flat or down from last year. Obviously their are cards that have gone up.
Agree on that. The key thing is that may all the cards we want in our collections take a nice dip right as we find the one we want to buy!
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I just checked on the leaf Robinson and Paige. The last 2 PSA 7 Robinsons were way off center, and should have been expected to sell at a lot less than previous nicer examples. As for the Paige the sale at over 100k could have been just two guys bidding it up. One happened to hit a month later so the previous under bidder didn't have as much competition. It's tough to predict the status of the market as a whole from one transaction. But both Paige sales were well over the amounts from a couple of years ago.
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We need to create a baseball card index... top 25 PreWar cards that are liquid enough to see price movement. Focus on varying grades... then we can have a real apples to apples comparison of what is going on.
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48 Jackie is an iconic card. And prices are going generally DOWN over the last year.
Yet another broad generalization based on limited data. The pricing arrow for every grade other than 3, 7, and 8 is up. 6 should be up but it doesn't reflect the Heritage card which doubled the average this past weekend.

We can trade limited data points, but I'm using this data to REFUTE your assessment that there is a hobby-wide slowdown. As I said, there are winners and losers, and if the particular cards you collect are heading down, and you're a buyer, congrats.
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Speak to someone who owns one of the auction houses that advertises here. I have.
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