Jumbo Wags back up for sale...the history of the card.

[ullmandds]

Interesting background on the jumbo wags expected to set a record in upcoming auction.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidsei.../#5522fba94ca0

[brob28]

Saw that this morning Pete, can you imagine having those cards she describes in her letter, unreal!! Love the history behind these rarities.

[Baseball Rarities]

I would love to know the specifics about the Piedmont Wagner that she mentions.

[TCMA]

The missing piece in all of this is... what happened to those other cards? Why didn't my dad buy all of them? Was he out of cash? Were they gone by the time he got there? Anything is possible but I don't believe he would have passed on them completely had they been there. Without a doubt he knew several other collectors at the time who would have been interested in them. I'm sure he would have tried to broker a deal.

I know he wrote down his offer for the Jumbo in his notebook but there's no mention of other cards at all or of other offers. It's a mystery.

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by TCMA

The missing piece in all of this is... what happened to those other cards? Why didn't my dad buy all of them? Was he out of cash? Were they gone by the time he got there? Anything is possible but I don't believe he would have passed on them completely had they been there. Without a doubt he knew several other collectors at the time who would have been interested in them. I'm sure he would have tried to broker a deal.

I know he wrote down his offer for the Jumbo in his notebook but there's no mention of other cards at all or of other offers. It's a mystery.

Maybe he did buy them but had a buyer lined up. So he quickly purchased them and sold them no biggie. Or the lady didn't except his offer. How knows ? I wonder if the mainstream media knows about this yet ?

[GasHouseGang]

We should probably add a pic of the letter offering the Wagner so when it disappears off that website it will still be here.

[TCMA]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Maybe he did buy them but had a buyer lined up. So he quickly purchased them and sold them no biggie. Or the lady didn't except his offer. How knows ? I wonder if the mainstream media knows about this yet ?

I know for a fact he definitely did not buy any other cards from the woman other than the Jumbo. It could be that she was mistaken about what the other cards were but I'm not convinced of that. She knew enough to know that the Wagner, Plank, Lajoie were the coveted cards.

Just speculating here but based on what she claimed was in her collection I wonder if it's possible her grandfather worked in one of the factories. During the 1909 - 1911 period her father would have been just a kid.

[brob28]

Originally Posted by TCMA

The missing piece in all of this is... what happened to those other cards? Why didn't my dad buy all of them? Was he out of cash? Were they gone by the time he got there? Anything is possible but I don't believe he would have passed on them completely had they been there. Without a doubt he knew several other collectors at the time who would have been interested in them. I'm sure he would have tried to broker a deal.

I know he wrote down his offer for the Jumbo in his notebook but there's no mention of other cards at all or of other offers. It's a mystery.

Yes Andrew, it would be great to know what became of the other cards. Also, the original owner must have been one hell of a collector to have those cards, I would be shocked if some of the big name collectors of that era didn't know this person. Did your Dad ever mention anything about the entire collection?

[TCMA]

Originally Posted by brob28

Yes Andrew, it would be great to know what became of the other cards. Also, the original owner must have been one hell of a collector to have those cards, I would be shocked if some of the big name collectors of that era didn't know this person. Did your Dad ever mention anything about the entire collection?

No, he just doesn't remember if the other cards were there but he doesn't think so.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Interesting background on the jumbo wags expected to set a record in upcoming auction.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidsei.../#5522fba94ca0

Nice, very interesting post, Pete!

Regards,

Larry

[mark evans]

Thanks Pete, great article.

I've got no special insight into Honus's value, and certainly have no serious money, but the $5 million estimate strikes me as high. If I were to guess, I should think its value to be closer to that of the Gretzky card.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by mark evans

Thanks Pete, great article.

I've got no special insight into Honus's value, and certainly have no serious money, but the $5 million estimate strikes me as high. If I were to guess, I should think its value to be closer to that of the Gretzky card.

Ya...i agree... Most auction houses like to underestimate to beat expectations goldin seems to have the opposite philosophy that usually backfires.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Ya...i agree... Most auction houses like to underestimate to beat expectations goldin seems to have the opposite philosophy that usually backfires.

What do you think this card is going to sell for? Do you think it will bring 5+, less than 3, or somewhere in between?

[BeanTown]

Over 5m without a doubt. Heck, it could go for over 10 million IF two parties with deep pockets thinks it "market value".