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Posted By: Hankron
As many know, the seller and his wares have a variety of issues that don't need rehashing, but this was a detail I found amusing. Compare the the lower cut/corners of the back and front pictures of the T206 Cobb. They appear to be two different cards. In particular, one front lower corner is rounded, while on the back it is sharp ...One will find that many of his card backs are simularly cropped by the scan, while the fronts are not. |
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Posted By: George
I appreciate you taking the time to point these things out. I have learned a lot on this board and thank everyone for sharing. Also according to a previous lesson on this board I saw the words: All sales final! Keep up the good work, everyone. George |
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Posted By: Scott Polin
Everything Prizesports is selling is fake? All agree?? |
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Posted By: runscott
But the CJ's are definitely fake. Also, to add to David's list of "bewares", any time a seller says that he is liquidating an estate and the cards (usually all rare) were found in a very old cigar box...stay away. |
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Posted By: BcD
"wedding "card??? funny how the alleged owner of it is not registered to defer responsibility! |
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Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
Thanks David for the heads up on this. Like the rest of us on the board, I sincerely appreciate the hard work you put in trying to keep the hobby free from evil. I wonder if prizesports from Ohio? |
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Posted By: runscott
They are so simple to spot just from the scans. If people like "Harleyman" and "Prizesports" didn't take their money, someone else would. |
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Posted By: Hankron
I learned, and probably many others, learned how to spot the fake Cracker Jacks from Frank Ward. |
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Posted By: Mike
I looked at the T-206 Cobb and thought the same thing as runscott. What am I missing here? |
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Posted By: runscott
If 9 out of 10 cards someone is selling can be positively id'd as fakes, then you can bet that #10 is a fake also, even if it looks real. |
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Posted By: Hankron
The T206 Cobb is not an obvious case (though I submit that it is likely a fake or scam). However, along the lines of Scott's argument-- if hefty percentage of the seller's cards appear fake (as is the case here), you shouldn't spend your time pondering that some of the other cards look legitimate. You should spend your time looking for a better seller. |
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Posted By: runscott
David - this made me think. I rarely buy on ebay any more, simply because it isn't worth dealing with all the fakes, or spending a ridiculous amount of time to locate the occasional jewel. Instead, I pick up a few nice cards here and there through legitimate auctions - maybe others are going the same route and that is why Mastro is bringing such high prices? |
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Posted By: runscott
...or rather, scans of Lilliputians: Norris - does your scanner have a cropping feature? If not, get a new scanner! (your cards are too nice to end up like this!) |
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Posted By: Hankron
Naturally, I could write a hundred posts on the subect, but I will distinguish between buying an expensive and inexpensive item. I will and do buy inexpensive items from people I don't know (though check their feedback, determine from their other auctions if they are experienced in the area and know what they are talking about, and am overall conservative in who I buy from), but I would only buy online an ungraded 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb autograph from a select few sellers. If I don't know the seller or his reptution, I won't buy such an item from him or her. Simple as that. Do I miss out on some authentic and wonderful items? Sure. I am a very conservative and methodical buyer, but I also never buy fakes or am dissapointed with what I buy. |
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Posted By: Hankron
Some may have noticed that I made a composite name ('Dave Knoll'), but, whether I meant to save Dave Bushing or Dan Knoll, both fit the bill as good sellers. |
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Posted By: TBob
I can appreciate the sentiment about not buying cards on ebay but only through Mastro, etc. The problem is that there are trimmed cards in the Mastro and other auctions also (I am not including the cards clearly marked trimmed). While there will always be fakes and scammers on ebay, you are cutting off your nose to spite your face by not bidding on cards on ebay. Besides if you think people are not bidding on ebay and the prices have been going down, please check the recent buy prices for caramel cards. They have skyrocketed whether they be lesser or higher grades. |
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Posted By: Hankron
Bob, while authenticity and lack thereof is a subject that obviously gets me excited, I agree that eBay is agreat place to buy. There are lots of great sellers, both full time dealers and normal collectors. I also think that the vast majority of eBay sellers are honest and try to do a decent job. I recently bought a Greta Garbo photograph from someone in Romania, and was satisfied with the transaction. |
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Posted By: runscott
I can't find anywhere in this thread where anyone implied that ebay prices are going down - the opposite is true in many cases. Also, I completely disagree with you that those of us who now spend less time scouring ebay and more time scouring legitimate auctions, are cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It is simply a "time vs return" decision. But where you look for cards and how much time you spend doing it is certainly your business, and I respect that. |
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Posted By: runscott
I still look for photos and publications on ebay, but not as much. I look at ebay for cards mostly just to keep an eye on market prices - I only remember winning one card auction since March and it was for a lot of Helmar stamps containing the elusive Reulbach. |
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