Why does Bobby Murcer have two rookie cards and which is the real one!

[OsFan]

Not my cards.

[swarmee]

Well, 1966 would be the rookie. Some players were featured multiple times in those subsets. Lou Piniella, Ron Cey, etc. Fairly common in the 60s and 70s.

https://www.comc.com/Cards,so,=Lou+Piniella,i100

https://www.comc.com/Cards,so,=ron+cey,ot,i100

[ALR-bishop]

Bill Davis had 5 of them . Copies posted in the favorite multi player rookie card thread in here

[OsFan]

Huh, interesting. I don't know why I've never noticed that before. Was topps just not paying attention and didn't realize they had already issued a rookie card the year before?

[JollyElm]

It gets funnier. Stan Bahnsen, pictured with Murcer on his 1967 'rookie card,' had another rookie card in 1968, and it uses the same photograph...

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[Chuck9788]

Curious. Can anyone explain why Topps did this? (Multiple rookie cards for same player).




The Lou Pinella multiple rookies are funny in that :

His 1964 Topps rookie is with the Senators (Washington signed and traded his rights away to Cleveland before he played a game for them)

His 1968 Topps rookie is with the Indians. Where he only had 5 total at bats (0-5).

His 1969 Topps rookie with the Seattle Pilots (Piniella was selected by Pilots in the 1968 expansion draft in October, but was traded to KC after spring training never playing a regular season game for them).


So Pinella had 3 rookie cards with basically NO playing experience.

[casebusters]

There is only 1 rookie card.
The cards are called rookie stars,
Which they could still be considered rookies if they didn't play enough games...

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[glynparson]

They are not "rookie cards" heck i am pretty sure the term wasn't even used at the time of those cards issuing. and if it was it was used very sparingly and had little impact on the cards.

[tschock]

"Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list)."

If I understand this correctly, item (b) above would exclude the counting of any time during the September callup or roster expansion. If so, then at least Murcer and Davis could still have valid "Rookie Stars" cards for various years (those were the only 2 I checked). Though in the case of Davis, I think the term "star" would be a bit dubious.

[OsFan]

By the way has the PSA pop report always been available to non PSA members?