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View Poll Results: Shound Barry Bonds and/or Roger Clemens be inducted into the HOF?
Bonds - in 78 50.00%
Bonds - OUT 78 50.00%
Cemens - in 76 48.72%
Clemens - OUT 77 49.36%
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:44 AM
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That's the easiest way to excuse lying and cheating, assume or assert that everyone did it.
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That's the easiest way to excuse lying and cheating, assume or assert that everyone did it.
Well, aren't you assuming that Clemens did it? As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), he never failed a test.
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Well, aren't you assuming that Clemens did it? As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), he never failed a test.
Neither did Lance Armstrong.....Or at least he never failed any after the Nike people talked to the UCI people.
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It's the same old tired debate, but the same people who get all sanctimonious about roids still revere guys who popped amphetamines like Aaron and Mays.
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It's the same old tired debate, but the same people who get all sanctimonious about roids still revere guys who popped amphetamines like Aaron and Mays.
Ruth ate hot dogs. That's my kind of guy.
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I think it's interesting that the "yes" votes are tracking in tandem with the BBWAA.
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Neither did Lance Armstrong.....Or at least he never failed any after the Nike people talked to the UCI people.
Armstrong admits it, Clemens denies it.
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Well, aren't you assuming that Clemens did it? As far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), he never failed a test.
Maybe after a four year stretch in Boston where he was 40-39 with an ERA around 4 he discovered the Canadian Fountain of Youth. Just as plausible I guess.

At the end of the day these guys decided to do what they did, they were already greats. Those of us who think no didn't make them do it. They have already enjoyed all of the good things that flowed from it, the adulation, the fame, the contracts and the mockery of the record books. Now they are left to deal with the baggage.

I am certain they will get in.
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