20 retraction high bidder PWCC

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Interesting auction on there now. With 3 days to go, a Mayweather PSA 10 is over 1900 and has been for at least a couple of days. Another 10 just sold last night for 911. I don't get it.

Now over 2700 with hours to go. 3X what one sold for a couple of days ago. WTF.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've been as vocal as anyone about these pricks with multiple retractions. Where I differ is where the blame lies.

Why not start with E-bay and demand that their completed sales reflect non-payments. This could be as simple as recording the sale after the item has been paid for and shipped, vs recording the sale at the end of the auction. This would take the sting out of the shillers and manipulators. For some of us, the real issue is the non-payment by the shiller.

Second, take this same approach to the AH's. Ask that they post when a winning lot has a non-payment (good luck). This would actually benefit them, as the shillers would have to pay the juice.

Asking PWCC to stand guard over this while the AH's hide in the weeds makes no sense. All we hear is crickets from the AH's, while PWCC is at least addressing the issue.

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

John- Good luck with this, you're pissing in a fan. Ebay doesn't give a shit, period. This topic has been going on for 7 or 8 years, maybe longer...And how is PWCC addressing the issue exactly? This seems simple to me, two offenses and you're warned, the third you're out of here....Is that difficult?

What I want to know as well?

All I ever read/see are lies, but I guess some get fooled by that thinking they'll eventually, when their ready, and feel like it, get around to it, as long as you haven't won any of their auctions and spent X number of dollars, in which case, those rules don't apply to you.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Now over 2700 with hours to go. 3X what one sold for a couple of days ago. WTF.

I am 100% sure everything in that auction is on the up and up, it would be silly to think something shady is going on. They have a very dedicated group of bidders that would happily pay 3X the price it could be bought for normally. I know I personally do it all the time.

[Republicaninmass]

He beat Marciano's record last last, I'm sure that's it

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

He beat Marciano's record last last, I'm sure that's it

That exhibition should not count as a real match. Conor had about as much of a chance winning as a 10 year old girl beating up you or me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That exhibition should not count as a real match. Conor had about as much of a chance winning as a 10 year old girl beating up you or me.

It was a joke from day one. An all time great boxer against an amateur. You might as well ask a champion squash player to practice two months then take on Roger Federer. I am sure Mayweather could have stepped it up and ended it any time he felt like it. The hand speed and punching power difference, good Lord what a stupid spectacle.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

I thought it was actually a great fight! 1000% more entertaining than the Pacquiao fight. Conor did much better than expected and didn't disappoint the MMA crowd while taking home 2x more than he made in his entire career. And Mayweather got to give his fans the fight they wanted to see 2 years ago against Pacquiao while beating Marciano's record in the process. Everybody won!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That exhibition should not count as a real match. Conor had about as much of a chance winning as a 10 year old girl beating up you or me.

Lots of talk. If there was no chance, they why not sell everything and bet it all on Floyd.....easy to say no chance without betting big....

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Lots of talk. If there was no chance, they why not sell everything and bet it all on Floyd.....easy to say no chance without betting big....

Because the opening was 25:1. In layman's terms, that means you'd bet $100 and win $4.

90% of the (number of) bets were on McGregor. 80% of the money was on Mayweather.

That means many guys laid down the $10-$100 bets, just looking for a little action, and likely MMA fans. The big money (on Mayweather) was from the guys who knew what they were doing, and (likely) do it professionally.

Finally, Mayweather admitted he tried to lay a bet on himself, and the casino he entered (undisclosed at the time) refused to take his bet.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Lots of talk. If there was no chance, they why not sell everything and bet it all on Floyd.....easy to say no chance without betting big....

There is always the risk of a fix, or of something equivalent to lightning striking. If the odds are too high the payout just isn't worth any risk. But in sports terms this was a virtual certainty, and a joke really. IMO anyone who gave MacGregor even a realistic chance does not understand the degree of skill involved in boxing at the elite level.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

He beat Marciano's record last last, I'm sure that's it

It was already at 1900 on the same day the other 10 sold for 900.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am 100% sure everything in that auction is on the up and up, it would be silly to think something shady is going on. They have a very dedicated group of bidders that would happily pay 3X the price it could be bought for normally. I know I personally do it all the time.

Ended over 3000. Let's see if the underbidder goes for the new BIN on ebay at that price.

[Peter_Spaeth]

52 Mantle bidder, 26 retractions.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

52 Mantle bidder, 26 retractions.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2471758.m4792

He must have slipped through the cracks, Peter?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by irv

He must have slipped through the cracks, Peter?

I suppose, hard to conclude much from one bidder. Awful lot of retractions though.

[Arazi4442]

Not to mention only 12 bids, all with the same seller.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I suppose, hard to conclude much from one bidder. Awful lot of retractions though.