Addie Joss auto?

[michael3322]

Hey everyone,

Belated happy new year, as I haven't posted in a while.

I noticed that in Lew Lipset's Old Judge April auction there is a listing for a "Rare 1905 Raymond Kahn postcard with Addie Joss addressed to “Norman Joss” in his handwriting with COA"

The description notes that "Kevin Keating has verified that it is Joss’ incredibly rare handwriting and has provided a COA."

Has anyone seen a Joss auto? I scoured the web but couldn't find an image of his signature. If anyone has one, could you kindly post a scan on Net54? Given the era when Joss played and his untimely early death, his may be one of the rarest of HOF autos.

Thanks,
Michael

[CMIZ5290]

Extremely rare autograph, especially when you factor in that he died either 1910 or 1911.....

[michael3322]

"Joss' playing career was cut short when he died suddenly from tuberculous meningitis on April 14, 1911."

Wikipedia

Scott Langert wrote a great SABR-published bio on Joss called King of Pitchers.

Later this year, Joss' writings as a newspaper reporter/columnist will be published as a volume (Addie Joss on Baseball: Collected Newspaper Columns and World Series Reports, 1907-1909).

But the question remains, have Joss-signed cheques or legal documents (or frankly any cut auto) survived and ever made it to the auction block?

Thanks,
Michael

[Fred]

I'd have to figure that IF it's a real Joss signature and someone can really prove this then that thing is going to sell for $$$$$

So, 5 year old Norman gets a post card with his dad's picture on it and he his dad decides to sign it within the next 4 years because he's afraid his son won't recognize him? I don't get it. Why would Joss sign it and comment that it's himself standing on the left? He would have known it was himself and so would his son.

Does anybody else feel this same way?

[nolemmings]

It's not being sold as an autograph. It's offered as Joss' handwriting to his son--someone else added Adrian's identification later.

[tbob]

How did Kevin Keating verify the handwriting was Joss'? What did he compare it to? It could be someone in Cleveland who was a friend of the family who saw Joss' picture and thought that it son would like to see it. I'm skeptical. Hope it's genuine.