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Old 07-26-2022, 08:45 AM
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I picked up this relative obscurity on a whim. I know nothing about this 1926 memorial benefit tag supposedly given out at a game in 1926 honoring matty.

here is one that sold a few years ago.

http://feb15.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...=378&lotno=902

Does anyone know anything about these?
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:00 AM
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I don't have any opinion about authenticity, but one notable difference between yours and the one in H&S is that yours appears to be hand-cut.
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:02 AM
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I don't know anything about this either. But looks like yours is a 2nd generation copy of the original in Huggins. The Huggins is a clean looking photo. Yours isn't to me. Also strange lines around top of the front... and yours looks very bright and white to me... I'd be skeptical but just my novice opinion on these piece.
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:09 AM
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It looks like a low quality copy to me also.

This is from the linked image. See how clearly the NY is. Then look at how washed out the one pictured in the thread is.
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:00 AM
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I agree yours looks to be some type of copy but honestly why would someone reproduce that? Seems odd to me.
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i think you guys are right...doesn't look good to me...time to avoid this seller.
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:05 AM
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I agree yours looks to be some type of copy but honestly why would someone reproduce that? Seems odd to me.
People forge $1 autographs. There are fake items from 1 cent to millions of dollars.
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i think you guys are right...doesn't look good to me...time to avoid this seller.
Avoiding the seller makes sense. About whom should we be concerned?
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My first impression was also a fake / reproduction / reprint. And after hearing others explanations, I am more convinced. However, I am no way an expert. Just my thought.

Why would anyone fake something like that? Simple. Money. There are counterfeit 20 dollar bills, 100 dollar bills and ever counterfeit quarters, dimes and nickels. More attention or concern or skepticism is given to larger denominations so criminals also fake the low dollar items with less fear of being caught.

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Old 07-26-2022, 12:36 PM
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Avoiding the seller makes sense. About whom should we be concerned?
think they may be on here...sell predominantly on facebook live auctions. The fact they routinely sell the square cornered "bond bread" look alikes as authentic bond breads should've been a clue to me.

Been ripped off more the last 2 years than the previous 20. It's disheartening.
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I have owned a couple of these over the years and I don't like this one.
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think they may be on here...sell predominantly on facebook live auctions. The fact they routinely sell the square cornered "bond bread" look alikes as authentic bond breads should've been a clue to me.

Been ripped off more the last 2 years than the previous 20. It's disheartening.
Sorry about that Pete, more people with less integrity around these days.
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If they’re selling fakes, name them.
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I have no faith in the authenticity of that.

It doesn't look old, it looks worn. The hole isn't worn, seems to me if it had that much wear, there'd be a tear in the hole where the string would have pulled out. Some of the edges look recently cut with a straight edge blade; seems to me that the originals would have been punched out. And I agree with the image comments above.

As always, uv light would be helpful to see if it fluoresces.
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My first impression was also a fake / reproduction / reprint. And after hearing others explanations, I am more convinced. However, I am no way an expert. Just my thought.

Why would anyone fake something like that? Simple. Money. There are counterfeit 20 dollar bills, 100 dollar bills and ever counterfeit quarters, dimes and nickels. More attention or concern or skepticism is given to larger denominations so criminals also fake the low dollar items with less fear of being caught.

Bob
That's for sure.

The Stamp club got a huge donaton of several boxes of stuff.
Including over 150 faked first day covers. Someone scanned real ones photoshopped out the stamp, printed them on modern envelopes and added a real stamp.
What's funny is that first day covers from the big manufacturers are currently the junk wax of the stamp world. Probably 5 cents each in bulk. Each of these had at least a 4cent stamp that could be used as postage. A few had 8 cent stamps.
File under fakery as a way of losing money....
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