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Old 11-30-2010, 06:58 PM
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Default Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25 Survey

I would like to do several surveys of the Sweet Caporal Factory 25 backs. I have decided to break it down into 3 different surveys with the first being the 350-460 series.

Please let me know if you have any of the following players with this back and I will keep the list updated. As inputs for this list begin to slow down I will start a thread for the next series.

Feel free to PM or email me abravefan@msn.com if that is your preference over posting in the thread.

Thank you in advance for any inputs.

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Standard = Unconfirmed




Abbaticchio, Ed (Blue Sleeves)
Ames, Red (Hands Above Head)
Baker, Frank
Ball, Neal (Cleveland)
Bell, George (Follow Thru)
Bender, Chief (No Trees)
Bergen, Bill (Catching)
Berger, Heinie
Bescher, Bob (Hands In Air)
Bradley, Bill (With Bat)
Bridwell, Al (Portrait - With Cap)
Brown, Mordecai (Chicago On Shirt)
Burch, Al (Fielding)
Camnitz, Howie (Arm At Side)
Camnitz, Howie (Hands Above Head)
Chance, Frank (Batting)
Chance, Frank (Portrait - Yellow)
Chase, Hal (Holding Trophy)
Chase, Hal (Portrait - Blue)
Chase, Hal (Black Cap)
Cobb, Ty (Portrait - Red)
Cobb, Ty (Bat Off Shoulder)
Conroy, Wid (With Bat)
Crandall, Doc (Portrait With Cap)
Crawford, Sam (With Bat)
Davis, Harry (Davis On Front)
DeVore, Josh
Donlin, Mike (With Bat)
Doolan, Mickey (Batting)
Dougherty, Patsy (Arm In Air)
Downey, Tom (Batting)
Doyle, Larry (Portrait)
Doyle, Larry (With Bat)
Duffy, Hugh
Elberfeld, Kid (Fielding)
Evers, Johnny (Chicago On Shirt - Yellow Sky)
Ford, Russ
Frill, John
Gandil, Chick
Geyer, Rube
Griffith, Clark (Batting)
Herzog, Buck (Boston)
Howell, Harry (Hand At Waist)
Hummel, John
Jennings, Hughie (One Hand Showing)
Jennings, Hughie (Two Hands Showing)
Johnson, Walter (Glove At Chest)
Jordan, Tim (Batting)
Joss, Addie (Hands At Chest)
Kleinow, Red (Boston - Catching)
Konetchy, Ed (Glove Near Ground)
Lajoie, Nap (With Bat)
Lake, Joe (St. Louis - Ball In Hand)
Lake, Joe (St. Louis - No Ball)
Latham, Arlie
Leach, Tommy (Bending Over)
Leifield, Lefty (Batting)
Magee, Sherry (With Bat)
Manning, Rube (Pitching)
Marquard, Rube (Pitching)
Mathewson, Christy (Dark Cap)
McGraw, John (Glove At Hip)
McGraw, John (Portrait - With Cap)
McIntyre, Harry (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan, George (With Bat)
Merkle, Fred (Throwing)
Meyers, Chief
Mullin, George (With Bat)
Murphy, Danny (Batting)
Murray, Red (Portrait)
Needham, Tom
Oldring, Rube (Batting)
O'Leary, Charley (Hands On Knees)
Overall, Orval (Hand At Face Level)
Overall, Orval (Hands Waist Level)
Payne, Fred
Pelty, Barney (Vertical)
Pfeffer, Francis
Pfeister, Jake (Throwing)
Reulbach, Ed (No Glove Showing)
Rucker, Nap (Throwing)
Schaefer, Germany (Washington)
Schlei, Admiral (Batting)
Schlei, Admiral (Portrait)
Schulte, Wildfire (Back View)
Seymour, Cy (Portrait)
Seymour, Cy (Throwing)
Sheckard, Jimmy (Glove Showing)
Smith, Frank (Chicago & Boston)
Smith, Happy
Snodgrass, Fred (Catching)
Stahl, Jake (Glove Shows)
Steinfeldt, Harry (With Bat)
Stovall, George (Batting)
Street, Gabby (Catching)
Sweeney, Jeff
Tannehill, Lee (Tannehill On Front)
Tinker, Joe (Bat Off Shoulder)
Tinker, Joe (Bat On Shoulder)
Wagner, Heinie (Bat On Right Shoulder)
Wheat, Zack
White, Doc (Pitching)
Wilhelm, Kaiser (With Bat)
Willetts, Ed
Willis, Vic (Batting)
Willis, Vic (Throwing)
Wiltse, Hooks (Pitching)
Wiltse, Hooks (Portrait - With Cap)
Young, Cy (With Glove)
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:12 PM
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my Sweet Caporal 350/460/25

Ball Cleveland
Donlin bat
Downey bat
Evers yellow
Griffith bat
Howell hands at waist
Konetchy glove low
Payne
Reulbach no glove
Seymour pitching (2)
Sweeney New York
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:22 PM
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I thought I had a few more, but this is the only one I have to contribute:

Chief Meyers (Portrait)

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Old 11-30-2010, 07:28 PM
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I have:

Bender no trees
Bridwell port/cap
Brown chicago
Snodgrass catching
Street catching
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I have:

Bridwell With Cap
Camnitz Arm at Side
Doolan Batting
Elberfeld Fielding Washington
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I can add:
Joss (pitching)
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I can add:
Merkle (throwing)
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I can scratch these 3 off the unconfirmed list:

Arlie Latham
Nap Rucker (Throwing)
Joe Tinker (Bat On Shoulder)

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Thanks guys. I appreciate all the inputs posted and sent privately.
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Hey Tim,

Here's a thread from about 5 years ago on this back.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...aporal+factory

It's really tough, but not sexy enough to bring a premium.

I have one in my set. The Konetchy that has been mentioned above.

Good luck with your surveys.

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Old 11-30-2010, 11:55 PM
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hi tim-
i have a george stovall batting!
regards...
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Hi Tim-

I have a Larry Doyle N.Y. Nat'l with bat 350-460 SC Factory 25

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great work!
i have sheckard glove shows and rucker throwing.

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Can only add one to your list.

Chance Yellow Portrait.

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Confirmed here:
Marquard, Rube (Pitching) (the one with the weird red 8 on the front)
Mathewson, Christy (Dark Cap)
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I have

Ames
Baker
Bell
Davis
Donlin
Needham
Street
Sweeney
Wiltse Por with cap
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Magee (With Bat)
Schaeffer (Washington)
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Ames (hands over head)
Dougherty, Patsy (Arm In Air)
McGraw (Portrait - w/Cap)
Murphy (batting)
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Thanks Rob for posting the link to the old thread, and thank you to everyone else that has responded so far, I really appreciate the help.

Currently we have confirmed 51 players that can be found with this back.
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The only one that I have in my collection is the Ames Hands above head. Bill

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Only 4 here

Reulbach
Johnson
Doolan
Ames

Is this back really that tough? I have more of them than any other 350-460 back except piedmont. The distribution is pretty equal among all the SC backs.
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Bill thanks for chiming in and showing the Ames. That is the third confirmation of this particular card and the most fascinating to me at this point in the survey. As many of you know in the 460 series the 350-460 group can be broken down in many cases into two subsets.

#1 - The Broad Leaf 460 / Red Hindu Group (34 subjects)
#2 - The American Beauty / Uzit Group (29 subjects)

So far in this survey the Ames card is the only one of the 29 in group #2 to be confirmed.

Edited: There was a 4th Ames reported while I typed. Currently 27 of 34 from group #1 have been confirmed. Chase (Dark Cap) Cobb (Red Portrait) anyone?
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Hi Tim,
I have Cobb Red Portrait....
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Thanks Brian. Chase (Black Cap) should be out there as well.
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Hi Tim,

My only two SC460/25s are Camnitz (Arm at Side) and Doyle (With Bat), which have already made your list.

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I have the Willis (throwing) with this back. Also have a few others, (Ames, Davis & Snodgrass/Catch) but not sure anyone confirmed Willis yet.

Great work!

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The list below are the still yet to be confirmed players with a Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 25 back.

Thanks again to everyone that has contributed and as it seems the inputs are winding down for this list I will start the next Sweet Caporal Factory 25 survey shortly.

Berger, Heinie
Bescher, Bob (Hands In Air)
Bradley, Bill (With Bat)
Burch, Al (Fielding)
Chance, Frank (Batting)
Chase, Hal (Black Cap)
Cobb, Ty (Bat Off Shoulder)
Conroy, Wid (With Bat)
Crandall, Doc (Portrait With Cap)
Crawford, Sam (With Bat)
DeVore, Josh
Doolan, Mickey (Batting)
Doyle, Larry (Portrait)
Duffy, Hugh
Ford, Russ
Frill, John
Geyer, Rube
Hummel, John
Jennings, Hughie (One Hand Showing)
Jennings, Hughie (Two Hands Showing)
Jordan, Tim (Batting)
Lajoie, Nap (With Bat)
Lake, Joe (St. Louis - No Ball)
Leach, Tommy (Bending Over)
Leifield, Lefty (Batting)
Manning, Rube (Pitching)
McGraw, John (Glove At Hip)
McIntyre, Harry (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan, George (With Bat)
Mullin, George (With Bat)
Murray, Red (Portrait)
Overall, Orval (Hand At Face Level)
Pelty, Barney (Vertical)
Pfeffer, Francis
Pfeister, Jake (Throwing)
Schlei, Admiral (Batting)
Seymour, Cy (Portrait)
Smith, Frank (Chicago & Boston)
Smith, Happy
Stahl, Jake (Glove Shows)
Steinfeldt, Harry (With Bat)
Tannehill, Lee (Tannehill On Front)
Tinker, Joe (Bat Off Shoulder)
Wagner, Heinie (Bat On Right Shoulder)
Wheat, Zack
White, Doc (Pitching)
Wilhelm, Kaiser (With Bat)
Willetts, Ed
Willis, Vic (Batting)
Wiltse, Hooks (Pitching)
Young, Cy (With Glove)
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Tim,

Another confirmed for the SC 350-460 #25's

Schlei, Admiral (Portrait)


I believe I'm caught up on your Sweet Cap Survey's - there are four (150#25, 350#25, 350-460#25, 350-460#42 no op), correct?

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