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Old 06-30-2015, 11:41 AM
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I had someone offer these cards to me in trade. I they live several hours away so I cannot see them in hand. Any of these look off to anyone? I am working on getting pictures of the backs.











The other party told me he would ship first. If I do get them in hand, what are some of the dead give aways of fakes/reprints?

He also said the the E120 has a movie ticket on the back. Couldn't find anything about that anywhere. I'm also guessing the cut corners are not anything variation, but someone that had no clue.

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Old 06-30-2015, 11:59 AM
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I would recommend pulling up legit copies of these cards and do a comparison of every nook and cranny.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:23 PM
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A simple if not definitive test when you have them in person is to sniff them. If they smell old and musty that's a good sign.

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Old 06-30-2015, 12:28 PM
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The T206 Schmidt looks real to me, but I want to see the back to be certain.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:29 PM
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they all look authentic to me...most are commons after all.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:32 PM
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they all look authentic to me...most are commons after all.
Good point.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:34 PM
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As Peter said, those aren't cards that would normally be faked. Not the issues, but the players.
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:11 PM
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Thanks guys. That is what I figured. If anything was a reprint I figured the 206. Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket" back?
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we would need to see the e120 back to figure out what it is...is a movie ticket stuck to the back? or is the advertisment on the back for a movie...which could be interesting?
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:21 PM
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Well, it could have either been printed as a Globe Theater type back, or someone at the time could have glued their actual movie ticket stub to the back of the card. I have a nice 1969 Topps Luis Tiant with a 1969 Tiant sticker affixed to it. ;-)
Collectors do weird things.
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:36 PM
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As previously mentioned, don't think those particular cards would be faked and nothing looks bad to me so I would go with authentic on all.
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Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket"
Could be a Leader Theatre back.
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Could be a Leader Theatre back.
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we would need to see the e120 back to figure out what it is...is a movie ticket stuck to the back? or is the advertisment on the back for a movie...which could be interesting?
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Thanks guys. That is what I figured. If anything was a reprint I figured the 206. Anyone with the information of the "movie ticket" back?
Unless I miss my mark, it the same card I used to own (below). King's Theatre (in St Louis) used them for a promo ending in late 1925. The Theatre (an airdome) didn't survive the onset on air-conditioned theatres and closed a number of years later.

There are a number of these known for both E120/W573 (at least 16) and E121/W575-1? (at least 2). A number of HOF's in the bunch.

The card stock is much thicker and stiffer than normal.

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They look good to me. I collect most of these sets. Interesting movie tickets.....

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The card stock is much thicker and stiffer than normal.
So do you think that was due to the card being glued to a ticket back or a different printing stock that the card fronts were printed on? As in, could the card be taken apart to the regular back? Although with the nice story, they're probably as valuable or more valuable than a similarly conditioned regular card.
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