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Old 07-26-2017, 10:20 AM
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Of those all but the 86 seem to me to at least be in the same neighborhood and scan differences could account for it. They all look the slightest bit blue/green to me and with a more vibrant facial color.
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:33 AM
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Of those all but the 86 seem to me to at least be in the same neighborhood and scan differences could account for it. They all look the slightest bit blue/green to me and with a more vibrant facial color.
I agree with you. I think the scanner settings could have a lot to do with the apparent difference. It could also be the way the cards are stored over the years or different print runs. The PSA 7 of the original two cards discussed has a particularly dark blue/green background.
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Old 07-26-2017, 10:53 AM
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It's SGC ones look off to me so maybe it's the type of plastic they use in their holders? I know it's a stretch but maybe they scan different or something like that?
In hand, my Mantle is more green than anything, and being bluish, like the SGC copies, never even crossed my mind.
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"And what we said of it became a part of what it was." Wallace Stevens
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"And what we said of it became a part of what it was." Wallace Stevens
sort of the poetic equivalent of schroedinger's cat.
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The card was a DP and the wavy line....and truncated e in the auto are traits of one version. On the back of that version the stitches on the ball run to the left. On the other version to the right. The Robinson and Thompson cards, the other DPs in the high series have the same back differences and minor front differences as well. The SCD Standard catalog used to list all 3 as variations ...at least through 2014,

The two different Mantles should exist in fairly equal numbers. It was when SCD listed them as variations I felt compelled to go out and get the second versions

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Not a 52 Mantle expert (because, well, why bother!) but on card with PSA Cert 02108511 what is up with the border around his name. I used to do newspaper layout by hand in highschool and I'd've gotten canned if I couldn't tool any straighter than that! Is that considered a variation, it's the only one I see like that, and obviously is NOT just a print issue.
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Not a 52 Mantle expert (because, well, why bother!) but on card with PSA Cert 02108511 what is up with the border around his name. I used to do newspaper layout by hand in highschool and I'd've gotten canned if I couldn't tool any straighter than that! Is that considered a variation, it's the only one I see like that, and obviously is NOT just a print issue.
Stars are wavy on the version without a full box around the team logo. Also note the missing pixel (white dot) along the left border towards the top. And on the others note the missing pixel in the lower left corner of the black border.
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Not a 52 Mantle expert (because, well, why bother!) but on card with PSA Cert 02108511 what is up with the border around his name. I used to do newspaper layout by hand in highschool and I'd've gotten canned if I couldn't tool any straighter than that! Is that considered a variation, it's the only one I see like that, and obviously is NOT just a print issue.
This link explains it and also details what to look out for in a counterfeit copy.
http://bbcemporium.com/1952-topps-mi...terfeit-guide/

Lots of counterfeits exist, as you likely know, but the one that sticks out to me the most was the one that had a first version front but a 2nd version back, or maybe it was the other way around?
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