Let's play "Grade this Mathewson"

[Bliggity]

I'm crossing this over to PSA for a couple reasons, and am debating whether to submit it for review in the SGC holder or crack it out and submit it raw. So I'll put it to a vote here - what grade do you think this would receive from PSA? I'll do what makes sense based on the grades received. FYI, there are no hidden wrinkles/creases. THANKS!

[t206hound]

Paper loss on back; I'd say a 2


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[steve_a]

My .02 is a 3

[tiger8mush]

1.5 or a 2

[x2drich2000]

I'd say 2 as well. Nice card for the grade though.

DJ

[ullmandds]

the way psa grades paper loss...let alone on the back of the card...I'd say psa 6 ex-mt.

[pawpawdiv9]

guessing a 2-3 with a ST qualifier, if they notice the paper loss, then its a AUTH.

[Econteachert205]

1.5

[Stonepony]

1.5

[vthobby]

2

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

the way psa grades paper loss...let alone on the back of the card...I'd say psa 6 ex-mt.

Very nice.

[ullmandds]

Honestly I think it deserves a 2

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

1.5 or a 2

This

[slipk1068]

1.5

[CW]

I scrolled down real fast so I didn't see any replies yet...

My guess is it's an SGC 30 now, and the best grade PSA will give it is PSA 2, likely a 1.

Sweet card, regardless of what any grading company might say on any given day.

Guessing it's a 1.5 now (since SGC seems a bit tougher on paper loss) and could potentially become a PSA 2. Please share the current grade at some point if you would.

[GoudeyGum]

1.5

[conor912]

2.5

[sycks22]

1.5

[btcarfagno]

2.5

Tom C

[Bridwell]

2 or 2.5

[jerrys]

2

[Bliggity]

Thanks very much to everyone who has responded so far. I'll let this run until tonight and then I'll post the SGC grade and the totals from this thread. I agree that PSA's inconsistency with paper loss is the toughest factor.

[MVSNYC]

2

[nebboy]

1.5

[stlcardsfan]

2.5

[Harford20]

1.5

[Bigb13]

4 vgex

[T206Collector]

Sgc 35

[BBB]

before "ST" this would be a 1.5. Now, who knows? 2.5 (ST)?

[rats60]

Sgc 10

[Bliggity]

Ok, thanks to all who answered. Here's the current flip:



And here are the total votes (for those who guessed multiples, I counted both):

Authentic: 1
1 PR: 2
1.5 FR: 10
2 G: 12
2.5 G+: 6
3 VG: 2
4 VG-EX: 1

Two folks also thought it might pick up a ST qualifier. Counting the one Auth vote as a "0" grade, the average grade is a 1.94, which is just a tad shy of the current grade. I've seen a lot of PSA 3s that look a lot worse, which is why I was considering cracking it, but I agree that the paper loss on the back makes it difficult. I think based on the votes here, the best thing to do is submit it in the SGC holder with a minimum grade of 2, NQ.

Thanks again!

[Bliggity]

Bumping this for a long-overdue epilogue. I ended up rolling the dice and cracking it out before submitting it. Specified no qualifiers, but no minimum grade either. Just popped:

2 1 24501947 GOOD+ 2.5 1911 T205 Gold Border Christy Mathewson

So I lucked out and got the rare SGC-to-PSA bump. Time to buy a Powerball ticket!

[iwantitiwinit]

PSA 1.5, paper loss, significant staining, and evidence of glue on the front.

Guess I was wrong.

[EvilKing00]

2.5

nice card!

[Joshchisox08]

2