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Old 08-20-2017, 11:46 AM
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Though it is not "violent crime" it was multi millions of $$$. Certainly enough to warrant a prosecution. And obviously, due to the diligence of Chris, we still see that this garbage is still being sold.
The evidence, seemingly to Shelly, myself and Chris, was very strong and we still scratch our heads that the case was dropped.
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Everyone continues to blame law enforcement when cases are brought or dropped by the US attorney or district attorney. Also, "proof" is what can be presented or proven in a court of law, not some forum discussion where people or bloggers discuss something endlessly. If you know anything about the law you should know that most evidence doesn't even make it to court or does not "prove" anything.
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Old 08-20-2017, 02:45 PM
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It's not semantics. LE often is left frustrated and disheartened when attorneys fail to act on their hard work. This comment pretty much cements my comment above. Get a clue
I will agree to disagree with you, Jason.

In this context, it's semantics.

If you knew what we know, you would agree.
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:47 PM
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Everyone continues to blame law enforcement when cases are brought or dropped by the US attorney or district attorney. Also, "proof" is what can be presented or proven in a court of law, not some forum discussion where people or bloggers discuss something endlessly. If you know anything about the law you should know that most evidence doesn't even make it to court or does not "prove" anything.
There was major forensic evidence in this case. And not the type of forensic evidence that we mock here.
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That's fine, but it falls on the US Attorneys office, not law enforcement.
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:05 PM
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That's fine, but it falls on the US Attorneys office, not law enforcement.
Not in this case.

That's why I previously wrote "If you knew what we know."

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Old 08-20-2017, 06:16 PM
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In the whole scheme of things, this is only important to us, which is why I continue to do what I do.

There are many, many more pressing issues in this world.

For the most part, I am over it now, but it is still very frustrating.
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Eskimo, just so you know. The FBI agents who where handling this case told the US Attorney that they did not want to go further with the case. It was then closed. Even with all the evidence.
This is what we have been told by the ex FBI agent we are working with.
If you have a problem with that then there is nothing we can say to change your mind.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:02 PM
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Eskimo, just so you know. The FBI agents who where handling this case told the US Attorney that they did not want to go further with the case. It was then closed. Even with all the evidence.
This is what we have been told by the ex FBI agent we are working with.
If you have a problem with that then there is nothing we can say to change your mind.
Absolutely.
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:25 PM
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Ok, well I stand corrected on this case. It's gets pretty old when the same people continue to bash the system (i.e. LE) when most people don't know how the system works. The system sucks and most people tend to blame the lowest common denominator which is LE. As if they want to let crime run rampant in all aspects of society. The failure is with your local district attorney or US attorney office. Even with this story, I would bet that there is more to the story than what you are being told.
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