Certified, Qualified and Glorified!!!

[ajquigs]

I don't have many OCs, but I like this Mays. To me, the value of the qualifier is that you know this is essentially how the card came out of the pack - according to the eagle eyes of PSA at least. With a 7 (or whatever it would be without a qualifier) you have less information about the overall condition. Of course I would know the centering contributed to the grade, but I wouldn't know it's the only real flaw PSA found.

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[JollyElm]

Thought I'd give this thread a bump with a couple of the all time great sluggers. Show 'em if you got 'em...

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[jchcollins]

This one doesn't bother me in the least.

[tjenkins]

Here is one my favorites.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by tjenkins

Here is one my favorites.

Gorgeous color.

[Sportscards1086]

Originally Posted by tjenkins

Here is one my favorites.

I've seen worse that don't have the OC.

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I don't get get it...

BEAUTIFUL CARD!!!

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Sportscards1086

I've seen worse that don't have the OC.

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I don't get get it...

BEAUTIFUL CARD!!!

The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.

[Sportscards1086]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.

Thank you for that. Had no idea. Good info.

[Gr8Beldini]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Thought I'd give this thread a bump with a couple of the all time great sluggers. Show 'em if you got 'em...

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I never liked that '65 Aaron card. Always looked like he was trying to squish down into a tiny confined box so as to fit into the close-up photo.

[Rad_Hazard]

No qualifier, but it's one of my favorite miscut cards.

[JollyElm]

A tale of two Willies...

496. Optimullet
A card that is optimally beautiful when looked at from the front, but when you flip it over there are significant problems on the back.

On front, this 1967 Topps #200 Willie Mays is beautifully centered, which is woo-hoo worthy...but, WTF, the label says this card is miscut?? Turn it over, and although no actual information or graphics are compromised, you find the white box falls a hair off of the edge. Oh well. Picked it up from a fellow board member. This 1963 Fleer #64 Orlando Cepeda is harmlessly pushed a tad too close to the top for PSA's liking, but it ain't a problem for me. And finally, look at the intensity emanating from his eyes on the 1970 Topps #530 Bob Gibson card. Although he only went 1-3 against the Miracle Mets that year, what kind of fool batter would want to be staring back at that antagonist on a sun-drenched afternoon at Shea in 1969???

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[JollyElm]

Happiness is a warm qualifier...

The 1974 Topps #1 Hank Aaron 'New All-Time Home Run King' card was simply epic to those of us collecting back in our carefree younger days!!! And he's still the frickin' HR king!!! Here's an early 'Great One' card, 1981 O-Pee-Chee #106 Wayne Gretzky, and the fact it's Canadian makes it perfect (outside of the obligatory OPC centering, of course) for any hockey fan!!! The epitome of a moment of intimidation captured in a snapshot, 1976 Topps #300 Johnny Bench, has a tad bit too much 'noise' for the grader's liking, but it just adds a little more particle debris to the dust storm at home plate. And lastly, a tough and not-so-badly-centered high number, 1967 Topps #544 Indians Team.

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[JollyElm]

A Quartet of MVPs (Minor Visual Problems)...

The 1976 Topps #550 Hank Aaron portrait is a wonderful, must-have career-capper. 'Hammerin' Hank' was still raring to go!! The 'PD' on this 1961 Topps #360 Frank Robinson stands for 'PSA Delusional'!! And this cool pair of MVP season cards, 1969 Topps #375 Harmon Killebrew and 1973 Topps #130 Pete Rose, get my vote for simply phenomenal pieces of cardboard!!

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[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by ajquigs

I don't have many OCs, but I like this Mays. To me, the value of the qualifier is that you know this is essentially how the card came out of the pack - according to the eagle eyes of PSA at least. With a 7 (or whatever it would be without a qualifier) you have less information about the overall condition. Of course I would know the centering contributed to the grade, but I wouldn't know it's the only real flaw PSA found.

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With the way that most of the 73's were off cut throughout the entire Topps run, your Mays is a 10 in my book! Nice card indeed!

[Harliduck]

I just posted this on another thread...but probably belongs here more. As mentioned, the brother card to the Kubek...the ST is some wax on the back. Last card for my 57 set...






I have never noticed the short brim on Brooks helmet there...wow...I can now never unsee that! wtf?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Harliduck

I just posted this on another thread...but probably belongs here more. As mentioned, the brother card to the Kubek...the ST is some wax on the back. Last card for my 57 set...



I have never noticed the short brim on Brooks helmet there...wow...I can now never unsee that! wtf?

Niiiiice!!!!! Had that one on my watch list, so great pick-up!! I knew it would be gobbled up quickly. On a side note, the last two cards I needed to finish my 1957 set a little while back were Zimmer and Richardson (got them both in PSA 7 in the throes of an eBay 15% off coupon extravaganza). It seems everyone always needs Bobby at the end.

[JollyElm]

Back in the (side) saddle... (Get it? Off centered.)

The days of getting nice cards with qualifiers at nice prices has clearly ended, so I grabbed these four guys while I still could.

The centering on the 1969 Topps Roberto Clemente #50 is usually pretty awful side-to-side, so I was happy to pick up this guy with the very-much-less-bothersome glitch in the top-to-bottom department. The 1959 Topps Bob Hale #507 (just like the Bob Gibson RC) is a high number with the image nearly always found sliding off the side of the card. The "stain" designation is a puzzler. It might refer to the gentle toning on back? Not sure, but it looks quite natural and any normal collector wouldn't give it a second thought. The 1974 Topps World Series Game 2 #473* serves as the epilogue to Willie Mays' storybook career. He got short shrift that season due to all of the hullabaloo surrounding 'Hammerin' Hank.' Too bad. Along with the 1976 Topps Reggie Jackson #500, I just felt it was a good time to pick up those sharp-cornered cards at really decent prices. Lord knows how high the dollar signs will fly tomorrow...




*So many people think back to the 1973 World Series (with lament for us Mets fans) and focus on the infamous 'out' call at home plate which forced the Say-Hey Kid to his knees. That is the game referenced on the card. What a monumental moment, as the great Mays seemingly realized his legendary time on the field would soon be over without a second championship ring. But what most fans don't seem to realize is the Mets actually won that game in 12 innings!! Here's a custom card I created a while back...

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[IndyDave]

Probably my best example for this thread

[JollyElm]

The 'Q' in qualifier stands for quality...

As I continue to slowly amass the big names from the set in PSA 9 OC (not very OC) shape, this 1973 Topps #130 Pete Rose fits in nicely. The picture probably just captures a foul pop-up, but it's a pretty cool shot that's a departure from the usual game-action scenes, and really works well to offer the collector something slightly different. The 1976 Topps #98 Dennis Eckersley is what I call Leggy - a graded card with an ‘ST’ qualifier that can be easily eliminated by using a pair of pantyhose to wipe away the ‘invisible’ wax or gum residue on it. You can't even see where the heck the supposed stain is. I damn straight jumped on this perfectly centered 'Eck' immediately!! The 1957 Topps #307 Jack Phillips is another tough series card with a bit of non-problematic wax/gum residue of back, while the 1965 Topps #188 Sam Bowens is just a beautiful card that I was able to grab up cheaply, so I said what the heck.