Question for the E90-1 Experts

[White Borders]

Most of my collecting the past few years has been on T cards (T206 in particular). But I enjoy learning about the other cards as well.

I've been spending some time becoming familiar with the E90-1 set, but there's something I don't understand:

For McLean, Shean, and Upp, both PSA and SGC gives them weighting factors of 1 - 2 for their registrys. But when I look in the Standard Catalog (2009), I find that they are valued at about 14 times that of a common.

Can someone please explain why there is such a discrepancy between the PSA/SGC weightings and the Std Cat value?

Thanks for your time and best regards,
Craig

[edhans]

Craig,
I'm not certain exactly what SGC's "weighting factors" are designed to represent, but those three are among the most difficult "commons" in the E90-1 set; some would say on a par with Mitchell (Cin), Graham, Sweeney (Bos), Dougherty and Stahl.

[FrankWakefield]

.Upp's card is much less plentiful than a common E90-1. Same for Shean. And McLean to a lesser extent.

I'm with Ed, probably more so. I don't know hardly anything about PSA or SGC registry stuff. And I put very little faith in what they may have. Consider that if a fellow had 50 or so E90-1s, and he was inclined to get a few of the less common ones graded, then if he had one of the Upp cards that one would be an excellent candidate to get graded. The process itself skews statistics...

The E90-1 card of Jerry Upp is his only major league card, I believe. One season, 7 games, started 4, won 2, all in 1909 for Cleveland.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl.../uppje01.shtml

and in the minors

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=upp---001geo

This being his only card puts a bit of demand on an already difficult card.

Mine....

[3-2-count]

Not sure where the weighting factors originated from but they're very false. All three cards are as Ed states very tough.
Between the 3 cards of Upp, Shean, and Mclean I've seen less Mclean's pop up going back the last few years.

[cfc1909]

been watching this set for some time-thinking about making a run at it-have only seen low grade Upp examples -like to see a vg or vg-ex example.

after 206, i would like to go after something not so large but colorful-the Bell and a few others are really attractive from this set.

Craig-we seem to have very simular taste.

[tedzan]

Here is the Jerry Upp card in my E90 set. It is a difficult card, as are the other 20-29 cards issued in the Short-Printed last series
of the E90 set that were issued in 1910.

This card is crease-free and is probably one of the nicest Upp cards in the hobby. Why it got an "AUTHENTIC" grade is mystifying.
I acquired many, many cards from Frank Nagy (since 1980) and I never saw any of his cards having even a hint of being altered.

Note....I show my Tinker, and my CROFTS McGraw, for comparison. The Tinker card is also from Frank Nagy.





TED Z