old card

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

I have this old card that has 6 players on it. One of the players is Babe Ruth and the other is Tris Speaker. I have not been able to identify the other 4 players on the card. I found the card under the wood floor of a poolhall that was built in Guymon, Ok. around 1910. I tore the building down appx 25 years ago to make room for a bank expansion on main street in Guymon. I have sent a scan to a couple of different collectors whom have verified Babe and Tris on the card. It is not a photagraph but maybe a color drawing of some sort. I am looking for help to identify all the players and possible a price that the card may be worth. Please email mpritc@ptsi.net if you think you could help me. I will email you a scan of my card and we can go from there. Thank you Mike Pritchard

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Posted By: Rick McQuillan

Hi Mike,
I would love to see it. Can you post a scan for all of us to see?

Thanks,
Rick

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Posted By: barrysloate

It doesn't sound like a traditional baseball card, but we would need to see a scan to help you with it.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

Please post email address's so that I may email a scan of my card to anyone that may help with my search. Thanks Mike Pritchard

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Posted By: barrysloate

bsloate@att.net

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Posted By: Paul

paulgx3@yahoo.com

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Posted By: Steve F

al@mrmint.com

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Posted By: Paul

Here's the scan. Posted here with Mike's permission.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Don't recognize it. The cards are produced the way you would expect strip cards to look, but none of the players are identified. Some of our experts may know what this is.

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Posted By: Steve F

Very cool. Obscure strips or game box?

Mike, Can you take a pic out of the packaging including the back?

Top L, Ray Schalk

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Posted By: barrysloate

Looks to be ca. 1920, and Speaker and Ruth are correctly identified.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

There is no printing on the back of the card. I have the card between 2 pieces of plexiglass to protect it from future damage. The bottom left hand player is Babe Ruth verified from a picture on a card put out by The Purity Ice Cream Co. There were 21 cards in their set and when you collected all 21 you got a free brick of ice cream. The middle player on the right is Tris Speaker. At this point in time I haven't been able to find all 21 of those cards to maybe see if any of the other players may be in their set of cards. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Where did you get this information about the Purity Ice Cream Company? Is there reason to believe that they issued these cards for redemption purposes?

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

I searched the web and found the Purity ice cream card on some site. Don't remember now what site it was. they also had a Speaker card out in the set. If you would like I can send a scan of that card too. Thank you Mike Pritchard

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Posted By: barrysloate

Well if the Ice Cream company issued these then that's what they are. Never heard of them, however. Maybe a new find?

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

Never heard of the Purity Ice Cream cards before but very cool looking strip cards.

marty

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Posted By: MikePugeda

This looks to be the same player in the bottom right of the 6 player card. I believe it is Specs Toporcer.

Thanks Leon for letting me borrow your quarter.

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Posted By: Paul

I think Mike is confusing the cards with the Honey Boy cards, which were produced by Purity Ice Cream.

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Posted By: Steve F

Mike Pug. I agree, same image. But you show far more bust than the Mike Pritchards example. (:

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

I don't know if my card is connected to the Purity Ice Cream cards or not. Just that the pic of Babe on my card is the same pose on the ice cream card. They also have one out of Speaker but not the same pose on my card or maybe not the same Speaker. I have a pic of that card also. My card measures 2-1/2w inches by 4-1/2h inches and each players pic measures 1-5/8h x 1-1/4w. I think the Purity Ice Cream Co. was located in Canada. Am researching that also. Everyone, i have to say thank you. I never expected this kind of interest in my card. Mike Pritchard mpritc@ptsi.net

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Posted By: barrysloate

They were in Winnepeg, Canada.

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Posted By: Paul

Mike your Ruth is the same image that's on Ruth's 1927 Honey Boy Ice Cream card. Honey Boy Ice Cream was produced by the Purity Ice Cream Company, & the cards could be redeemed for Honey Boy Ice Cream.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

Yes it does say Honey Boy on the card. Issued by The Purity Ice Cream Co.

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Posted By: barrysloate

But Honey Boys were black and white, and these are in color.

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Posted By: James Feagin

I know all about Guymon, Oklahoma. Small dusty town in the panhandle. How in the world would a previously uncatalogued Canadian card make it under the floor boards in a small town like Guymon? This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

Also, the Honey Boy cards were individual cards. 21 in the set.

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Posted By: Brad Green

Not that I can contribute that much to this thread, but could somebody please tell me the name of the card that Mike Pugeda posted above?

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Posted By: Jerry

Top Right...Zach Wheat?

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Posted By: Brad Green

Mike Pritchard: What are the measurements of your card?

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

The card measures 2-1/2 w x 4-1/2 h. each player pic is 1-1/4 w x 1-5/8 h appx

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Posted By: Hal Kaplan

This looks like the 4-in-1 Universal Toy & Novelty cards from the Universal Surprise Box, possibly two of these cards taped together by whomever collected them as a child back in the '20s.

I don't think these had anything to do with Purity or Honey Boy Ice Cream. I think Mr. Pritchard was just saying that he looked for a reference to confirm the identification of Ruth, and happened to find a picture of the Honey Boy card.

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Posted By: Mark L

Maybe Toporcer--or could it be Specs Meadows?

As for the Sox player, any guesses gang? Dickie Kerr?

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Posted By: Brad Green

Mike Pugeda: What are the measurements of the card that you posted?

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

Mr. Kaplan Yes I was just referencing the Purity Ice Cream / Honey Boy cards as a source. Don't know if connected or not.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

This card is all one piece. It has not been taped togther. The tape that you see in the scan is the tape that I have holding the 2 plexiglass pcs together. There is no damage to the card other than what you see.

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Posted By: Sean

The top players are ray Schalk and Zach Wheat

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Posted By: Randall

It looks like it might have come from this game, I was the under bidder on this game last year on Ebay. I didn't save the picture of the game cover, but I believe the game was put out by Universal Toy & Novelty.

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Posted By: Hal Kaplan

Thanks Mr. Pritchard!! Great card, I thought there might be some old tape or glue on the back that perhaps you didn't notice, because the other cards I've seen like this (e.g. Randall's post above) picture 4 players or boxers each. Best of luck and thanks for sharing!

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Posted By: MikePugeda

Brad,

Sorry I did not get back to you earlier as I was at a Christening.

My "card" measures approx. 1-3/4" by 1-1/4". I picked it up a while ago at a local small card show. The dealer had a lot of strip cards and this was in that group. I knew when I purchased it that it had been cut down from something, I just didn't know what. I thought it may have been cut from a card similar to the one the original poster has, but mine has a white border. Not sure what it is or where it came from.

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Posted By: mike

My card has no border nor does it look like may ever had one.

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Posted By: boxingcardman

Although Iv'e not seen 6 on 1 cards before, or that nearly square shape, it certainly looks like the same designer and printer. My vote would be for another card in that grouping.

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: Brad Green

Mike Pugeda:

My thoughts are as follows:

- Your card appears to have the same image as Mike Pritchard's card
- Your card and Mike Pritchard's cards (each taken individually) are about the same size
- Your card has a black box around the card, much like the black lines that are on Mike Pritchard's card
- On the top of your card, just above the horizontal black line, there are two black marks on your card. One of the marks is on the left side and the other is on the right side. What if these marks are from the "Cleveland" on the shirt of the player on the mid-right of Mike Pritchard's card? Specifically, the marks would be from the "C" and "D" in Cleveland.
- We will never know if Mike Pritchard's card had a black box around the outside edge of the card. It may well have originally had one, but was trimmed off.
- The only thing that I can't explain is that the vertical black line on the right side of your card does not appear to go to the top of the card. I would think it would if it had been originally produced on a sheet with the other cards.

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Posted By: Mike Pritchard

Hey everyone thanks for the help with my card. One card person that I sent a scan to said that this site will help and man has it. thanks again everyone. Now to identify the player in the middle on the left side. Does anyone have any idea about what this card may be worth?

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Posted By: dan mckee

Can someone email me the picture to r337man@yahoo.com These types of pictures are blocked here at work for some ridiculous reason, thanks.

www.danmckee.com/pictures/types001.jpg>

[Batter67up]

The player on the very bottom right may be Jim Thorpe. He played with the Boston Braves in 1919. Tell me if the picture of Thorpe resembles the face on the Baseball Card?

[Brian Van Horn]

Can we have Rhett post his card from this set? Three of the first four are Schalk, Wheat and Speaker. On the left of the second row is possibly Steve O'Neill, but the pose I believe is different from Rhett's card. The bottom right of the last row is definitely not Thorpe. It almost looks as if it may be Lee Meadows without the glasses.

[Hal Kaplan]

I think the player in the lower right is George "Specs" Toporcer. Thanks for bumping this thread. This is the 6-in-1 thread I referred to in Rhett's Universal Toy & Novelty 4-in-1 thread but could not find. This definitely looks like it's connected to those 4-in-1's. Rhett's 4-in-1 card pictures the top two rows on the above card.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=114936

[Batter67up]

Working on getting to the bottom of this. Here is a picture of another Ruth 4 in 1 with Ruth, Sisler, Grover Alexander, and another unknown. Any ideas of whothe player is on the top right?

[Batter67up]

I meant top left